Writing Excuses
Writing Excuses
Mary Robinette Kowal, DongWon Song, Erin Roberts, Dan Wells, and Howard Tayler
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Great info
This is full of great discussion and information. My only ask: please, for the misophonia sufferers, keep a glass of water handy while recording. There are dry mouth noises throughout that prevent me from following the discussion fully because I have to skip past or take my headphones off at points. It feels like such a stupid thing to say, but those mouth noises fill me with a visceral disgust that I can’t help.
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FaderCrusader
Was a favorite
When I stumbled onto this podcast a few years ago I went and downloaded the entire back cataloge and started listening from the beginning instead of the current week. There was a point starting season 14 or so where it started to fall off. First it was one episode at a time. Eventually I learned the names of episodes to key off of and just skip "Writing the Other" was a great warning of mediocre preachy content with bad advice that started to repeat. Eventually though I found my self skipping all but a handful of episodes each season to the point by season 15 I just unsubbed and stopped listening. There was just no good content left or it was buried under piles of political drivel.
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gidaeon
Heads up they’ve added ads
They gave a heads up on adding ads to the eps but I had it in my head it was only going to be going forward but it’s in old and new eps, harder to binge listen to now.
Sarena M.
Used To Be Great
Seriously, the first seven or eight, maybe ten seasons of Writing Excuses are fantastic. Great guests, great discussions about technical topics, and a clinic of how to improve as a writer. Then something started to go off the rails. Some of the episodes are still worth while, but too many of them now wander off into political discussions or social issues. The guest list has become increasingly stale as well, with all the authors sharing the same blandly liberal views on most things.
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Shdwmav
My first & still my favorite writing podcast!
10 out of 10! Highly recommend!
KerrieFaye
A Masterclass
Almost everything I know about revision and editing I learned from Writing Excuses; my novel out on query would not be this polished without everything I learned from this podcast.
Zyneth
They got me published!
Every spat of writer’s block, every rejection, and every frustration, all of it became manageable because I kept getting reminders of Brandon, Howard, Mary Robinette, Dan, and guests going through those same hurdles while giving practical advice. And now I’m working with my publisher to push out two series. There are not enough words of gratitude I could ever muster. Do what they tell you and you’ll get on your own path to publication!
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PC Nottingham
Mandatory for aspiring writers!
I discovered WX in 2017, shortly after deciding to pursue writing as a career. Since then I've never missed an episode, and I've listened to the entirety of the podcast (yes, starting at Season 01, because I am a completionist) at least three times. Even before, but especially during the pandemic, it was an almost meditative experience to spend an evening listening to random episodes just to feel connected to the world of writing and publishing. Today, I am actively querying my epic fantasy novel, and when I get an agent and sell it to a publisher, it will be in no small measure thanks to Writing Excuses. Not only because of the skills I've acquired from listening to you fine people, but also for the safe space this podcast has been for my mental health in the years since I discovered it. Keep up the good work, and never stop growing!
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Rolyo85
Mostly good, no more schlock please
Is Schlock required reading? Sometimes a title looks good, but then the whole episode is about schlock. Makes me think you guys ran out of ideas.
jdjcejeiwhejdbshs
Nosedive in quality
This used to be THE writing podcast to listen to, but without Brandon, it's just...meh. Mary and Howard's voices are over the top (their pronunciation of words if akin to nails on a chalkboard), and let's face it, none of these remaining writers are particularly successful with a capital S. I've moved on to The Creative Penn.
Forty Fathoms
One of the best writing craft Podcasts ever
The discussions are very practical and they keep it moving along rather than waste of time with preliminaries as many Podcasts to do.
anonymous87347843
Decent
Decent advice, Mary Robinette’s voice seems extremely affected which is why I’m not giving 5 stars. Maybe let someone else do the intro and ad reads (which are starting up) from time to time to give us a break from that voice.
rjc (the dude)
Valuable content
Writing Excuses has made me a better writer. I am consistently pleased by the nuanced and relevant topics they cover.
K Michalak
I really miss the guest authors
This used to be a podcast I listened to every week and always learned something new. The rotating group of guests kept it fresh and interesting with far more wisdom than any repeat panel can offer week to week. Please reconsider having guests again.
BooneLady
In Decline but Fixable
I used to listen to every episode. It was great for brand new writers. Unfortunately, over time, the 15-minute format has limited deep dives into topics. Also, the hosts have become increasingly political and navel-gazing to the point that it’s almost not listenable. Every new season I give it a try to see if it’s improved, but it’s sadly only declined. Suggestions: (1) longer format for more rich/relevant info, (2) more guests to prevent navel-gazing, (3) avoid politics to prevent toxic, peachy tone. I’d love to be a regular listener again.
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Kat Rosetti
I want Brandon back
Give me more of that sweet sweet Sanderson Also I don’t like any of the other hosts. Erin and Dan are cool ig.
SoldierHayden
Loved having the team together
While the new hosts are smart, and know a lot about writing, I’ve missed having the team together of Brandon, Dan, Howard, and Mary Robinette. I hope you will be part of the show every once in a while in the future. I’ve loved listening to you every season since the beginning, and it’s like listening to old friends when I hear your voices.
RuthBBBB
Great Writing Podcast
Great podcast—packed full of excellent advice. I just wish they would host all their back seasons on Apple podcast instead of only the current one or two. Some things I’d like to listen to are in much earlier seasons and I’m sorry but trying to navigate the website is clunky and not user friendly. I listen to these often when I drive and having past seasons easily accessible in the podcast app would be so nice. Oh well, a girl can dream.
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Gfirl1256
Pretty good
I found some useful information. Just a couple things that bug me. One for such a short episode I don’t like the cut in for the book of the week in the middle. It disrupts it and changes the topics then onto a new topic then wait back to the other? The other thing is I am trying to listen to other videos and the way it is uploaded I can’t just let it play I have to keep going on and scrolling all the way down after each video. Maybe just an Apple podcast thing?
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nurself23**
Nuggets of Wisdom
It’s hard not to love this fun show — “Fifteen minutes long, because you’re in a hurry and we’re not that smart.” The hosts all bring their own unique spin to their subject matter, and their spur-of-the-moment banter keeps the show fresh. They do a great job of talking about theory and then providing examples of how to apply that theory to practice.
Oraxis
I got questions
* I don’t know how to give questions for the mircocast’s. So I’ll just put them on here, and also thank you for the show, it really helps. - what’s your writing schedule on the weekends? - how would you write fight scenes that were a unique fighting form you came up with? - what are some tips to guarantee your idea doesn’t sound similar to another? - should write the next book before sending the one before to the publishers? - For Mary: How do balance three creative based jobs? - If you take out editing and publishing, how long do you have to write the book?
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Logan Hamblin
Hit and miss
The earlier seasons of this show are amazing. So much useful content. It’s very hit and miss these days. The master class on poetry and this nice quotient have been tough to listen to.
slappybags007
Skip politics please
I’ve been enjoying the discussions and advice until today. During the MICE topic, a guest asks about the origins of the technique. Mary begins with a nearly immediate explanation of political differences between herself and her original teacher OSC. Card’s politics have absolutely nothing to do with the useful information he shared. There is no need to apologize for learning from one of the greats. To make an issue of it is not just irrelevant, but smacks of “wokeness.” Questioning politics and society is what artists should be doing more of, not bowing to tyranny of the culturally elite.
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Kitty_Blue
Love
I just recently started listening to this but love most everything I’ve heard. The humor and relationships are great. The advice is impeccable!
4282021
One of my favorites
I’ve listened to most of the episodes and they’re great. Howard is my favorite to listen to and I love the diversity in the story telling genres. I do skip a few episodes but only the ones that don’t apply to my writing such as writing children, writing historical fiction, etc. it’s definitely one of my favorites, however I don’t like when the guests get ‘corrected’ on their metaphors or aren’t allowed to talk as much. Overall, great podcast though.
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Vampirefetish1
Why do they talk like that?
No human voice actually sounds that stilted. Why are they all over-enunciating everything? Is it a rich people thing? You can just talk in your regular voice on a podcast
MikeyM28
Used to be great...now is the Mary show
I used to get so much value and information for writing out of this podcast. It used to be a wonderful conversation and dialogue. And I really liked it when Mary joined and I hoped for a more balanced and diverse panel. But now... there are for guests as Mary teaches. Just gotta be honest. The spark is still there. Have some internal crucial conversations and it will be even better!
Docedward
Good but getting off topic...
It’s really good and has lots to learn, but with the last few episodes about poetry it has just bored me to death. While I see where you are going with it , it doesn’t entertain me very much anymore. Although it is still great, I do not really like how much of coarse their is. But while you will flip to other writing, with the last few episodes with poetry and stuff, you aren’t making the flip and just kind of sitting in the middle. While with some episodes it will completely lean toward a topic and stick to it. The poetry episodes are confusing. Although it is still a good podcast just needs some change...
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leprechun67
My favorite writing podcast
I started listening to this cast in 2016 and it is still my go to. At the time, I had abandoned writing fantasy because it wasn’t “important” or “literary” enough. This podcast—these writers—helped me pursue my first love again. If you’re new and don’t write genre, there’s plenty here for you, too. The episodes are short and helpful, and the cast will become your friends.
edbrooks93
Stick to the writing
I need to echo what many are saying. I expected this to be great with guests like Patrick Rothfuss, but why go off into political discourse? I want to learn about the craft. If I want social studies, I’ll take a class at my nearby community college. Certain other guests and panelists ruin this podcast.
Waytogo
First choice for a writer’s podcast
I’ve listened to this podcast for years and continue to enjoy gleaning knowledge from this great group of writers. The episodes are well titled, so if you’re a writer or a reader, just pick a topic and dive in!
KatReviews2020
Comfort food for my creative mind
This podcast is one of my favorite things in the world, and I listen through the entire archive at least once a year. (I have seven kids, so audio stuff keeps me happy during all the housework!) The advice is spot-on as well as entertaining, and I only argue with Mary (and some of the guests) when they start telling me what to write instead of just how. Although that has given me opportunity to clarify my own perspectives on many socially important topics, so I guess that benefits me as well. I pointed my teenage daughter at a couple of episodes when she had an assignment to write a short horror story for her creative writing class, and she mentioned it to her teacher, and now he’s addicted too, and wants to change his teaching plans because of it! 😂
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gimpypooh
Once great podcast sinks into politically correct morass
I’m not wholly insensitive to the issues of marginalization. But, sheesh, does it need to be a main focus of nearly EVERY podcast the last few seasons? Treat it like a dash of spice. Enough to add depth, but not enough to make every dish (episode) start tasting (sounding) the same.
Ostern
I tried, but it’s time to walk away
For a long while, I found this podcast helpful for learning about the craft of writing. But lately, it seems to have strayed from its original goal. During episode 15.04 with Patrick Rothfuss, Mary Robinette, cried foul about a “sexist” metaphor. I appreciate discussions of tropes and stereotypes, but Mary struck me as hostile. As a woman, I felt embarrassed. I recall thinking, “Of ALL the fights we have to endure, you’re picking THIS one?” I was honestly confused about why she was so deeply offended. Despite that, I gave it another shot. Then, in episode 15.34 about “deliberate discomfort,” one of the guests asserted that writers cannot “write horrible people just for funsies” and that scenes that depict discomfort should be essentially drawn from the author’s lived experiences. I’m sorry....whaaat? This slippery slope pairs nicely with the issues in #ownvoices. Isn’t creating stories part of imaginative process? How were books about elves, wizards, vampires, and fairies made if the author never lived that experience? And what if I don’t *want* to talk about the discomfort I’ve experienced as a BIPOC, and want to use writing as an escape? Does this mean an author cannot write a gruesome scene in her horror novel unless she “experienced” that discomfort? What about fantasy authors? Are we forbidden from writing those stories because they are not “ours” to tell? Instead of having a more nuanced (and messy) debate about this, everyone agreed. Lockstep. I don’t need another insufferable talking head in my life. It’s time to for me to move on.
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D St. Amant
Mary’s a treasure
I really enjoy this podcast! In some of the early episodes I felt a female perspective was needed. Mary was a welcome addition. She has clearly done a lot of work to consider how words and stories can be marginalizing and offensive. She is wonderfully sensitive in ways many of us are not. We all need a “Mary” voice in our head so we can see the ways our culture has raised us to other, dehumanize and marginalize non-dominate populations with our words and actions. Let’s do not harm with our stories.
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Ruby_Klo
Not a Writer: Still Gain a Lot
I am not fully an author, but am more of an editor. Still, I love learning about the nuances of writing, mentally pan out some of the prompts/homework, and enjoy the hosts and guests. Through this podcast, I’ve been more open to other authors and writing styles/scenes. I’ve paid a bit more attention to how worldbuilding+ is done. And I’ve thought of how I could incorporate certain writing in my math classroom.
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SW_Pants
Great!
I love this podcast! It’s so informative and insightful. I’m glad that there is talk of social issues because representation is so important. The episode are pretty short which I really appreciate.
dragonofthewestt
Don’t be so sensitive.
Started listening to this series, then I found out if you use an analogy of a love affair with a dark eyed beauty from Morocco, you’re a racist, and also using gender stereotypes. This white woman, Mary, is an insufferable feminist troll. Sheesh!
Fratellicoh
The best podcast on the craft of writing
I’ve been listening for years, and have yet to stray! This is a must listen if you’re a sci-fi or fantasy author.
NancyInBlue
Great writing info, but hosts could rotate differently
I really enjoy this podcast, but I am increasingly frustrated with one host in particular, and it lessens my enjoyment considerably. It has been so gratifying to see the show moving towards a more and more inclusive model as the seasons progress — touching on issues of representation that are increasingly relevant in today’s world. However, I have found that, repeatedly, Howard’s contributions feel very disconnected from the rest of the dialogue. I don’t want to disparage him in particular or as a person, but he seems to speak from within a very privileged bubble and without any awareness of it. It’s difficult to listen to a conversation about gender, race, or sexuality, only to abruptly have a (white, male) person jump in to brag about something they’ve written as they seemingly struggle to relate the concepts to their own life. The self-congratulation and disconnect can be jarring, and often bring down the quality of the discourse on the whole. That said, many of the contributions from other guest and regular hosts are very valuable. In particular, Mary Robinette always seems to have a relevant contribution (and great taste for recommendations!) As hosts do already rotate, I think the format would benefit from having some people take the back seat for certain topics.
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OneEyeAskew
Great writing tips
There are a lot of great writing tips, particularly in series 11 on elemental genre. At a structural level, that series is incredibly helpful for anyone trying to sort out what they are trying to acccomplish with their work. Five stars for that series and for the earlier content, too. Over the past year or so, though, Howard's endless anecdotes, which are really just cocky stories about how amazing his ideas always are, have overshadowed actual structural writing advice. If you don't read his books, you don't know what he's talking about, you don't care, and you can't actually take his point. It's tediouss and I find myself turning off the podcast halfway throug if he gets going. Plenty of people seem to complain about Mary's take on fairly and accurately representing disadvantaged groups, but she's speaking to issues that are relevant within the publishing world. Write better characters, gain a wider audience, get a better publishing deal, sell more books. This is actually advice that will make you into a better writer. And she's capable of abstracting her individual experiences into tips on how to tackle writing problems that other author's might face. Five stars to her for bringing attention to how to be a better writer and a better human.
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Fierce as a Wolverine
Selectively Interested
I love the advice I get from it as the master of excuses (like we all are). I see how politically charged it is though and I recognize that this isn’t everyone’s cup of tea, even I get annoyed (this coming from a liberal, political science person).
CrankyDM
3 out of 5 for Mary
I would give this podcast a 5 out of 5 except I can’t stand Mary. She takes every opportunity to bring up gender and sexism she can find, and is turning the podcast into “how to write politically correct fiction” which is not what I am tuning in to learn. Please get her off the show.
ConversionChris
Great Content.
Overall the podcast is pretty well done. The hosts are professional authors and are easy to listen to. The run times are a bit short and lead to a lot of really good applicable conversations cutting short and not delving far enough in. Sometimes it seems like they’re scrambling to pour out as much information as they can before the clock runs out. I would encourage the hosts to know when to end the podcast even if it means going into overtime. Yes, they are left leaning and at times it can be annoying but it’s not overbearing and only one person really cuts their beliefs in consistently. However, we’re all adults and can listen to other people’s opinions. As inappropriately interjected as they sometimes might be, you can still learn something from it. I have. Again, great podcast. The only critique I have is don’t be afraid to go a little over time if an episode needs some more time to fully surface a topic. Thanks for the hard work.
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BadAtWriting
Writing? Or Social Justice?
What happened to this podcast? These people make things up for a living. That’s awesome! You are bot qualified to speak on social issues. Worse, no one asked you.
Calwarr
Insufferable Hosts
Fairly solid writing tips geared mostly towards sci-fi and fantasy authors. I liked the episode about depth vs width as I incorporated some techniques into my novel. However, I find the hosts insanely insufferable. Mary Robinette complained that an analogy about not eliminating dark shiny parts of your novel aka a character sneaking off to Morocco to make love was somehow completely derogatory towards all women. For the love of God, it was a metaphor!!! As a woman, I’m telling you to get over yourself! Not everything in this world is sexist, racist, or bigoted. Yes, those things do exist but get off your high-horse and stop assuming that every little thing somehow relates to those isms. All three hosts have a pretentious air where they scrutinize every detail that each person contributed. Should change your intro to “We think we’re really smart but we’re totally unlikeable.”
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Basic INFJ
Absolutely loving this podcast!
This is a great resource for both aspiring and professional writers.
Erik Slader
Love the Honesty
Gotta love Mary Robinette telling it how it is in season 15 episode 4. Rothfuss adjusted okay, but I like the honesty of this show. Everybody learns, even the hosts.
Buldry
Woke Social Justice
Guys, we get it, you’re liberals, do you have to spend every episode talking about offending various identities and oppression? Go back to talking about SciFi and writing. Relax, Hillary lost, the world goes on. I just listened for the first time in a year and Mary is calling Patrick Rotfuss a sexist because of an analogy. These people are ridiculous.
AreWhy
Loving this... but
I’m a new listener thinking starting a book for the first time in 20 years. Thank you for all the great (free!) advice. I just listened to “What Writers Get Wrong” and I have need of clarification, or further understanding. The guest speaker begins by saying she’d love more diversity in fiction and that the publishing/writing world is in need of more awareness. I do not disagree, but I am from the default “American” world (white, middle class) so I don’t pretend to know much about worlds other than my own and, therefore, am still in “data-entry” mode. Later, she quotes an author who said that if you want to write about a different culture, then read 100 books on that culture. If you can’t, then maybe you aren’t the person to write it. One of my fears of writing is being “called out” on something. This is why I haven’t written in 20 years. I determined I needed more life experience to write from. Lastly, the homework for this episode was to take a leap and write a secondary Ecuadorian character. Here’s my confusion: do the more “diverse” people of the nation really want people like me to write about them? On one hand, the consensus from this episode seems to be YES—we need more examples of diversity in fiction. On the other hand, it sounds like the sentiment is “but you better not get it wrong—that’s offensive.” Honestly? I’m scared to try, so I’d rather stick to what I know. Am I the only one? Am I misunderstanding this episode’s lesson all-together? Or are people of diversity actually just saying they want more people of diversity to be writing their stories? If that’s the case, what’s my take away (as an aspiring author)? My default viewpoint (which is open to change) is the belief that true acceptance of diversity is understanding that each one of us is unique in ethnicity, heritage, life experiences, family dynamics, race, religion, skin tone, hair color, etc.—regardless of how much our skin tones vary, or if our ancestors were colonized 300 years ago in America or 3,000 years ago in Scandinavia. If you have a story, write! How does your episode fit my viewpoint, or do we just agree to disagree? Do we even disagree?! (So many questions...)
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sherrylee99
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