On this episode of "With That Being Said" Esther and Erica discuss two tragic cases of 'what were the parents thinking?' and discuss why it's not helpful -- and even dangerous -- to view people as wholly bad or good.&nbsp;
 
*Warning: this episode contains an audio clip about sexual assault that some listeners may find triggering.&nbsp;
 
Twitter Video: &nbsp;<a href="pic.twitter.com/tQcA4Ogk91">pic.twitter.com/tQcA4Ogk91&nbsp;</a>
Abducted in Plain Sight: <a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81000864">https://www.netflix.com/title/81000864</a>&nbsp;

Self Care with Jerico Mandybur

Join Esther Boykin and Erica Turner, two licensed marriage &amp; family therapists who run Therapy is Not a Dirty Word- a collection of workshops, retreats, happy hours, and other awesome ways to bring people and therapists together in real life. We bring professional expertise into beautiful, fun, and inspiring settings to make the wisdom of therapy more accessible to everyone. 

With that being said… let’s start the podcast!


|Psst... podcasts aren't therapy. Please consult a health professional in person for real life help as needed|