Thinking LSAT
Thinking LSAT
Nathan Fox and Ben Olson
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Love the lsat demon platform
But really find these episodes and rhetoric so demoralizing and negative. It’s just not super helpful to be in that mindset and would love more positivity.
Mina19
Helpful & Informative
Considering a career change & pursuing law. Been listening to this podcast as part of my early prep. While I’m not fully committed, I like the insight & understanding I’m getting. Also adding to the Louisiana listener stat.
mwelk95
Engaging LSAT Prep Podcast with Insightful Strategies and Dry Humor
I recently stumbled upon a fantastic LSAT prep podcast hosted by two incredibly knowledgeable individuals, Nathan and Ben. Not only do these hosts have an incredible understanding of the LSAT, but they also have a knack for incorporating dry humor into their discussions, making for a very engaging listening experience. What I appreciate most about Nathan is his recognition of the obstacles faced by minority students in the law school application process. He offers unique insight into how to strategically apply in order to overcome these obstacles and increase the chances of success. Overall, this podcast is a must-listen for anyone who is serious about preparing for the LSAT. The hosts are not only incredibly informative, but they also keep things interesting with their witty banter and insightful commentary. If you're looking for an LSAT prep podcast that is both informative and enjoyable, look no further than this one.
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Natalie
Very Entertaining
These guys are like the Skip Bayless and Stephen A. of the LSAT world. What they’re saying may not always be true, but it sure is entertaining. For example, Mike Spivey (who has actually worked in admissions unlike these two) has repeatedly said you don’t need to apply in September to maximize your chances. I’m not sure if Ben and Nathan believe all the stuff they say, or if it’s mainly for shock value. Whatever the case may be, it’s fun to listen to. If you take their word as gospel, however, you’re doing yourself a disservice. As an aside, the personal statement pods need to come back. Those were the golden days of Thinking LSAT. I miss the episodes where Ben and Nathan would read 6 personal statements and berate all of them. Why is that no longer a thing?
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Aàå
Long Time Listener - Then Got Trapped into Blueprint
I wrote a previous review saying why these guys shouldn’t be taken seriously if you want to learn how to think like a lawyer. After grappling with the fact that Blueprint completely stunted the progress I made on LSAT during my time with the demon, I rescind those sentiments. The LSAT doesn’t matter in law school! Once you’re done with it, you’re done with it forever. Do what you need to do and what works for you to pass the test. These guys make it very simple and plain which is why they’re so successful among pre-law students.
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Kashahahahahahaha
So negative, so wrong on admissions
Man, I had to pause the Dean Z rant episode just to come write this review. These guys are SO negative. Dean Z’s admissions advice from the A2Z podcast has helped me punch WAY above my numbers this cycle. I almost followed Ben and Nathan’s personal statement advice until I listed to Dean Z, the Deans of Admissions at HLS, YLS, and UT. They give advice that is basically *opposite* of Ben and Nathan (who have never worked in admissions!). Listen to Ben and Nathan when it comes to the LSAT and when they say not to pay for law school. Their admissions advice will kill your apps, though. BTW, as a below 25th LSAT applicant, Dean Z gave me an 82% scholarship and admitted me on the first wave, so if you’re reading this and you know your application is otherwise killer, shoot your shot regardless of how dismal Ben and Nathan are making your chances seem.
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Kelsier's Ghost
Mostly good
Their content on the LSAT is good. It's just annoying when they go on random tangents. I'm listening for LSAT prep not for their opinions on politics or COVID.
TyAllen_
Great! As long as you can get over the hosts’ bluntness
The hosts, Ben and Nathan, have a wealth of knowledge, and if you’re going to use one study tool for the LSAT, the LSAT Demon is the way to go. I began studying with Kaplan, but it was not helpful. These guys really cut through the crap and get straight to the point and have been incredibly helpful! Nathan in particular can be brutal, but they really do want people to be successful. If you’d rather have someone nicer, and end up paying tens-hundreds of thousands of dollars more, go for it. I don’t care whether someone is a jerk, as long as they’re a jerk who can help me master the LSAT and go to law school for free.
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Jess Kit
Hosts
These guys are jerks
Hdsyjn
I have never known a love like this.
This podcast is 100000% exactly what I have been looking for!!! It's hard to find information about the LSAT that doesn't feel like listening to a brick wall speak. These guys are entertaining and absolutely hilarious! I have already sent this podcast to my LSAT study group. It's a total GAME-CHANGER! Thank you so much !!
amidilley_
Used to be good
Their personal essay critique used to be good but increasingly it has become a way for the hosts to shock to garner more listeners in the same way shock jockeys would. An especially disgusting example of this was when a law school hopeful wrote in asking for a personal essay critique and mentioned his mom’s intestinal cancer, the hosts mocked the essay and the writer’s struggles calling his moms cancer “butt cancer”. How low do you have to stoop to make money? Don’t listen to these guys, they are failed lawyers being petty and mean and disguising it as “advice”.
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LsatReviewBad
10/10 Recommend
I recommend this podcast to anyone who’s interested or thinking about going to law school. Ben and Nathan are honest, knowledgable, and give the best LSAT advice and prep program on the market. Truly a life changing podcast.
Marissa B.R.
I wish Nathan and Ben were my best friends
I love this podcast so much. Nathan and Ben are absolutely hilarious and make me laugh out loud as I listen at my boring undergrad summer internship. I love it so much I worry about the day I listen to all 300+ episodes and am stuck waiting for every Monday to roll around so I can listen to another one. Their approach to the LSAT is logical and straightforward and understandable; it makes me genuinely enjoy studying. No doubt in my mind that listening to the podcast and studying with the demon are to credit for my 7 pt increase in 1 week (156 diagnostic to 163 practice test the following week)!! Also, love the swearing disclaimers—they crack me up.
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Hook'em2023JLA
Interesting podcast, change your intro PLEASE
I’ve listened to the podcast for three years and continue to enjoy it. PLEASE remove the stupid intro about swearing. It’s stupid.
JoshuaMidwest
I love this podcast...
Thank you!!!
anonymous1423960295719
Get in touch
For all newcomers, get in touch with Ben and Nathan’s style of teaching. If you’re faint of heart, get over yourself and take their words for face value. They’re not here to stroke your ego, they’re here to teach you. With their help, my score has already raised almost 20 points, and I’m still here to see how much more I can raise it thanks to their encouragement.
Ashton McHatton Abouelfetouh
Not a Fan
The hosts of this podcast are extremely condescending. It seems almost as if they use this podcast mainly to criticize test takers who come to them for help, writing them off as whiny, unprepared or unintelligent, rather than to actually help students prepping for the exam. Furthermore, it seems like they revel in this, as shown by their “excuse of the week” segment. There is a lack of support or encouragement. Maybe they are trying to prove their intelligence? It is weird. If you are preparing for the LSAT, I recommend you look instead to The PowerScore LSAT Podcast.
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txzux
Praise the Demon (and the Podcast)
I am so happy I found this podcast first. I am so glad that I found it and then I’ve been listening. Because that’s what led me to LSAT demon. The LSAT demon it is the easiest way to learn and to understand the LSAT. I have looked at seven stage, free lessons on YouTube, Kaplan, Khan Academy, and Powerscore. Thinking LSAT makes it fun to learn and introduced me to the LSAT Demon.
JeannetteSC
i will die without this
i am constantly stressed and have too much going on. i needed a way to start understanding the LSAT and building skills even though i have minimal time and will to live left. this is perfect i have already seen changes in my understanding of logic and reasoning, as well as a better understanding of how to write a personal statement. I took my first diagnostic at 161 and will soon start studying and eventually get to the demon i love you guys i want to give u both a hug i trust you both with my entire life soul and academic future <3
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Lolgrrrrl
Great podcast but please... leave out politics
Greatest podcast for students learning the podcast! The part I cringe at every time is the beginning when y’all talk about politics. If you could just please... PLEASE leave that out, this would be a 5/5 podcast. I purposely stay away from social media and the news b/c politics is so nasty and I don’t wannna hear that stuff on this show. I fast forward the part anytime “Trump” or “Biden” is mentioned. Otherwise love the ‘turds vs pearls’ segment and all the other useful advice y’all dish out! Keep it coming!!!!!
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Mikey12345678901234567890
The best LSAT podcast ever
I love listening to the guys talk about the LSAT and all things related. I started with a diagnostic of 152 and with the help of this podcast and The LSAT Demon I got a 166 on the LSAT after studying for 3 months. Now I also have hundreds of thousands of dollars in scholarship offers, so I couldn’t be happier. Getting to work with Ben and Nathan in Zoom meetings as a Demon student also is key - most definitely check the website out. I would suggest this podcast and The Demon to everyone getting ready for or even considering law school.
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KJ2228
Too old for law school?
Hey guys, I tuned in to hear your thoughts on going to law school when older. So funny that the 30 something thought he was old. I’m 55 (that’s old) planning on taking the LSAT next year. I’m glad I listened. You provided a ton of helpful advice. I’m only going to law school if it’s free! Thank you. Mike
19mepez65
my only source of serotonin
if ben and nathan ever stop making this podcast i’m not gonna be able to achieve my dreams they are helping me deal with the stress of deciding to become a criminal defense attorney or not. Thanks for everything you two and the team do for law minded people! Best podcast ever I love these guys! Haven’t listened since February 2020 but excited to get back to it soon.
mmcdouglas
Great podcast
Very helpful content. This podcast helped me view the LSAT in a new light. I also tried the LSAT Demon and in only a month saw a 8-13 point increase on practice exams. On the actual LSAT I saw a 10 point increase from my first official LSAT score.
Tata15973
Informative, Amazing podcast
I’m an undergraduate student hoping to go to law school and this podcast has me excited to study for the LSAT and I will be studying with the LSAT demon!
hanihanhanhanhanhan
Read this hilarious review
The LSAT is ultimately a deeply personal non-narcotic, psychedelic trip into your inner child that will, if faced correctly, disabuse you of residual childhood fantasies about your specialness. Your guide on that trip is Nathan Fox, who clearly has his own set of unresolved hurts, but nonetheless speaks truth to your powerful egocentricity and corresponding naivety at the start of the law school process. Law school admissions people don’t care that you have an Amazing Personal Story. They want your LSAT score like a junkie wants another junky’s doped-up needle, and they will grab it or discard you accordingly. The LSAT is learnable, luckily, and Nathan and Ben (bad cop/good cop) couple their natural chemistry with million dollar advice. Really. They’ve cumulatively saved students millions in scholarships. Your loyal correspondent here, the person writing about psychedelics and doped-up needles, saved a few hundred grand thanks to listening to Nathan Fox whisper, again and again as the show credits came up, “Don’t pay for law school.” Law school admissions people care about 4 things: your LSAT, your LSAT, your GPA, and whether you’re the right type of URM. If you’re through undergrad, the LSAT is the only one of those you control. No they don’t care about your stupid work experience. No, they aren’t impressed by that corny letter of rec your mama helped you get from that judge she knows. You are not impressive on paper. Oh, you were in the Olympics? Okay, that’s cool. It was the Olympic handball team? Womp womb. Back to not caring. Listen to this podcast - let it keep your miserable-a** company - and internalize how Ben and Nathan think about this test and process. The rest will follow. And you will honestly be okay and make it through. Sincerely, 140s to 169
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Scored 169 on purpose
Intolerant people- look elsewhere
Pretty disappointed they are attacking everyone who has diverse viewpoints. People who are different culturally or religiously should be respected. Shame on both- I will be looking for instruction from someone who is not bigoted and narrow minded.
Vitoskito
Nathan and Ben the dynamic duo!!
So much information is packed into this podcast! I listened to this podcast to understand law school and the admissions process more. Love how straightforward these guys are. You need the tough advice and answers particularly with something that requires this much work and money. Still unsure if I’ll ever try to go to law school but if I ever do the LSAT I’m learning from these two.
irinaerickson
Just Plain Helpful
I used Khan Academy’s practice, which I found really helpful to start. Went from a diagnostic 151 to about a 164 with that. Khan Academy is mostly self-guided, so I’m honestly very happy with it, but this podcast has helped guide my practice and strategy, giving me extra confidence. With this help, I’m now scoring around 170 with a highest score of 171. I’m very happy and entertained by the podcast. Thanks, guys. I’ll keep listening until I’m in Law School.
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QueenQueenQueenQueen
Great show. But Nathan needs to calm down.
I generally really like this podcast and it helped me raise my LSAT score significantly. But Nathan's self-assuredness bordering on smugness is getting to be too much for me. He makes sweeping assumptions about people and situations based on little evidence and repeatedly states his opinions or hypotheses as fact. For someone who clearly has good logically thinking skills, his lack of self-awareness is surprising.
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before coffee
Tough Love from Ben and Nathan
I discovered this podcast at the beginning of my law school journey, but I had already purchasing another company’s prep course. After using that prep program my score actually went DOWN from my diagnostic. After that course, my impression of the LSAT was that it was difficult and I needed to know all of these convoluted question stem types and diagramming blah blah. Well, Ben and Nathan changed that! They have a straight forward attitude about the LSAT and made me realize it is 100% learnable. Their sort of ‘tough love’ as I see it gave me the motivation I needed. It made me thing to myself, “Stop over complicating this and get to work!” After using the demon for around 4 months I began consistently scoring in the 173-176 range after getting a 155 on the July administration. I am still waiting for my January score but I am very optimistic. Nathan and Ben’s course and podcast completely boosted my confidence and I felt 100% relaxed and prepared going in. That’s saying a lot because I’m an anxiety type and we’re in a pandemic LOL. one last thing f*ck Donald trump
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Beth103097
Excellent advice for LSAT and life
Love this podcast. Went from the podcast to the free Demon trial to a mid-level subscription in the span of about 4 days. They make the LSAT so fun and intuitive.
Clever She-Devil
Solid advice, A1 entertainment
Thought-provoking and dynamic LSAT-prep advice. Snowflakes need not listen.
crunb
Great podcast and LSAT prep
Love them decided to get their live classes bc of the podcast best decision ever
@1vicky_diaz
Strong opinions regarding punctuation.
Strong opinions regarding punctuation. LSAT and admissions real talk.
albhd3
The bluntness that every LSAT student needs
After studying for the LSAT on my own and researching about law school admissions for a few months, I randomly stumbled upon this podcast. I realized that the advice I was reading and everything that I was learning about the law school admissions/LSAT process was just surface-level knowledge. This podcast gives you advice on a much deeper level and you cannot find this wisdom anywhere else out in the world. Ben and Nathan truly know their stuff, and they don’t sugar coat anything about the law school admissions process and LSAT studying. This can definitely come off as harsh or rude to some listeners, but if you’re like me and appreciate blunt advice, rather than trusting the overly-optimistic mainstream media advice about LSAT studying and the law school admissions process, then this podcast is for you.
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Franci3
The best, hands down
Ben and Nathan are experienced teachers that know their subject front to back. This is the best LSAT prep podcast out there, and their paid service is great, too.
SqueebyJeebies
Listen to this if you’re going to law school
I started prepping to take the LSAT by myself with no idea what to expect, and listening to this podcast has been incredibly helpful along with using the Demon to study. These guys are lit, so listen to them for the best advice on your journey to law school!
lilbabealex
Thankful for guidance
This podcast has given me a community so I don’t feel alone in my law school venture. It has answered so many questions and been incredibly informative. Iv spent the last month on the Demon and it’s been amazing.
Momof4&lawschoolbound
Best LSAT advice out there
Ben and Nathan are unparalleled LSAT teachers. Please do yourself a favor and abandon everything you thought you knew about the LSAT, stop studying LSAT theory, and let these guys initiate you into their simple, intuitive, commonsense approach to the test. Be warned: they generously offer advice on things besides the LSAT. It’s mostly good, but take it with a grain of salt. They’re not admissions professionals, they don’t keep up with admissions trends, and neither of them seem to be able to cite reliable sources for their strong hunches related to trends in admissions and scholarships. For example, when it comes to their personal statement reviews: enjoy them (they’re snarky as hell, highly entertaining), take the writing advice, but use your own head to weigh what they say about personal statement content. Even better, listen to someone who has worked in admissions and DOES know what admission officers are looking for (and looking out for). As long as the guys stay in their lane and stick to the LSAT, they’re right 100% of the time.
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Ksteen18
Best LSAT/law school apps resource
This is a review for the podcast and LSAT DEMON. I love Ben and Nathan. I honestly have no idea what I would have done if it weren't for them. I saw a 12 point jump from my diagnostic in the LSAT and they give great advice and have awesome guest Speakers on their show. They are so knowledgable in this field and show that they care about their listeners and students. The only "negative" comment I would say is regarding the Personal Statements. A couple of LSATDEMON students and I created a group chat to support each other and share our ideas regarding law school apps. Ben and Nathan have mentioned that PS are a one size fits all, but unfortunately the students in the groupchat and I agree that is just not the case with certain prompts from the law schools and after attending the forums they do encourage to answer SPECIFICALLY the question in the prompt. Other than that, i think they are fantastic. I listen to this podcast every Monday to start off my work week. For the love of god, do not use any other LSAT prepcourse; just subscribe to the demon.
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Kamarfu
Great for lost students
I LOVE this podcast, I was so lost looking for study materials in the midst of a pandemic and then stumbled across this. Now I am getting the Demon and am confident I can get the score I need. It even helped me decide to wait a year to apply for law school, a choice I am so excited about!
florida10
Critical but constructive
The podcast is really helpful to stay in the loop with LSAC’s intentions and changes to the LSAT. Both Nathan and Ben are great communicators and have a lot of good things to say, thought it might be harsh at times, haha. I’m glad that I found this podcast!
Steffy Craig
Get over yourselves
These guys are so obnoxious that it made me somehow hate the LSAT even more
annie.xiaoyu.wang
LSAT is fun with Nathan and Ben!
Nathan and Ben are masters in making complex concepts into digestible bites. Through their podcasts and Demon website, I was able to have fun while studying for LSAT.
TSSfan2020
Amazing Resource!!!
I had a friend who got accepted to Harvard Law say this was the most important resource she had while preparing for the LSAT. I’ve listened to Nathan and Ben for over a year now and they’ve helped me increase my score through the information they’ve shared in this podcast! Dump Kaplan, or any other study company you’re using and listen to this podcast and also look up there online resource, the LSAT Demon.
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casanovan93
Highly Recommended
This is the best and most entertaining podcast on the LSAT and law school admissions. I’ve read some complaints regarding their advertising their LSAT tutoring services on the podcast. As someone who used many different LSAT resources before I found them, I can confidently say theirs is the best. Furthermore it would be wrong of them not to promote the best study material available. I’m very thankful to have discovered their podcast and program!
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The mutherflippin rhymnocerous
Informative and entertaining podcast!
Love that Nathan and Ben are straightforward and consistent in their advice while mixing up each podcast with interviews, questions and funny anecdotes. Definitely a must listen to keep yourself motivated for LSAT studying!
trombonechick
The best!
By far the best and most informative LSAT prep podcast I have found. And the LSAT Demon online class has catapulted me into the mid 170’s. Highly recommend!!
UTclint
Don’t pay 4 law school
Came for the LSAT, stayed for the LOLs
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