The Psychedelic Podcast
The Psychedelic Podcast
Third Wave
The Psychedelic Podcast connects you to the leaders and pioneers of the psychedelic renaissance. From deep healing to creativity, leadership to spirituality, business, health, human performance, relationships, sexuality, and even culture itself—every aspect of our world is being transformed by psychedelic medicines. Get an inspired, informed, balanced look into how these powerful medicines are already being safely and responsibly used to catalyze both personal and collective transformation. Whether you’re just curious or a seasoned psychonaut, or somewhere in between, you’ll get insightful, practical, cutting-edge conversations from the forefront of the psychedelic movement. Join us as we explore how psychedelics can be integrated into culture for the evolution of humanity.
Chip Conley - Becoming Modern Elders: From Midlife ‘Crisis’ to ‘Chrysalis’
In this episode of The Psychedelic Podcast, host Paul F. Austin welcomes Chip Conley, founder of the Modern Elder Academy, to discuss reframing aging and building regenerative communities. Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-245-chip-conley/?ref=250 Chip delves into the importance of aging with gratitude in this conversation and shares his journey of creating a midlife wisdom school. Chip also highlights the value of intergenerational collaboration and its impact during his time at Airbnb. He explores how indigenous wisdom influences the academy's approach and discusses how psychedelics can aid in navigating midlife transitions. Finally, Chip shares his vision for regenerative communities, and shares lessons on the ego and the soul that he gleaned from building a boutique hotel chain. Chip Conley: Chip Conley is on a midlife mission. After disrupting the hospitality industry twice, first as the founder of Joie de Vivre Hospitality, the second-largest operator of boutique hotels in the U.S., and then as Airbnb’s Head of Global Hospitality and Strategy, leading a worldwide revolution in travel, Conley co-founded MEA (Modern Elder Academy) in January 2018 in Baja California, Mexico. Inspired by his experience of intergenerational mentoring as a ‘modern elder’ at Airbnb, where his guidance was instrumental to the company’s extraordinary transformation from fast-growing start-up to the world’s most valuable hospitality brand, MEA is the world's first ‘midlife wisdom school’ and has a campus opening on a 2,600-acre regenerative horse ranch in Santa Fe, New Mexico in April 2024. Dedicated to reframing the concept of aging, MEA supports students to navigate midlife with a renewed sense of purpose and possibility. A New York Times bestselling author, Conley's seventh book "Learning to Love Midlife: 12 Reasons Why Life Gets Better with Age" is about rebranding midlife to help people understand the upside of this often-misunderstood life stage, and gave a 2023 TED talk on the "midlife chrysalis." Highlights: The Origin story of the Modern Elder Academy Chip’s role at Airbnb and the value of intergenerational collaboration The Modern Elder Academy: Reframing Aging, Navigating Transitions, Cultivating Purpose, and Owning Wisdom How indigenous wisdom informs MEA’s approach Generativity & the importance of age diversity From 'can-do-it' hero to 'conduit' coach Burning Man, regeneration, and how psychedelics can help with midlif Building regenerative communities Lessons from building a boutique hotel chain Episode Sponsors: New Brew’s non-alcoholic kratom and kava seltzers. Use code THIRDWAVE25 for 25% off. Soltara Healing Center: Use code TW200 to receive $200 off your next retreat. Neurohacker Collective: Use code THIRDWAVE for an additional 15% off Qualia Mind. The Coaching Certification Program by Third Wave’s Psychedelic Coaching Institute.
Apr 30
57 min
Alexander Beiner - Navigating Complexity: Psychedelics, AI, & Extended-State DMT
In this episode of The Psychedelic Podcast, Paul F. Austin is joined by Alexander Beiner for a deep dive into nuanced engagement in the culture wars. Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-244-alexander-beiner/ Paul and Alexander examine the importance of sense-making and the role of psychedelics in navigating complex environments. Alexander draws from his interviews with thought leaders like John Vervaeke, Ian McGilchrist, and Nora Bateson, shedding light on the Four E's of cognitive science. He explores how psychedelics can enhance discernment and adaptability in the face of a rapidly changing world. Alexander also shares his experiences with extended state DMT and its impact on his understanding of reality. This conversation delves deeply into the realms of consciousness and reality, offering visionary insights into how psychedelic perspectives can inform and address the intricate challenges facing the world. Alexander Beiner is an author and journalist. He's the author of 'The Bigger Picture: How psychedelics can help us make sense of the world' and an Executive Director of Breaking Convention, Europe's longest-running conference on psychedelic science and culture.   Highlights: The story of Rebel Wisdom and unpacking culture wars John Vervaeke and Iain McGilchrist Adding ‘emotion’ and ‘exaptation’ to 4E Cognition DMT entities and the overview effect Examining the different medicines can occasion unique mystical experiences Idealism and panpsychism The importance of cultivating relational ways of being Envisioning new systems to facilitate responsible psychedelic use Reestablishing a relationship with the land Resources and conclusion   Episode Sponsors: Joyous microdose ketamine. Book your free consultation today! Soltara Healing Center: Use code TW200 to receive $200 off your next retreat. The Coaching Certification Program by Third Wave’s Psychedelic Coaching Institute.
Apr 23
1 hr
Russell Kennedy, M.D. - Comedy, Courage, & Calm: Psychedelics & Anxiety
In this episode of The Psychedelic Podcast, host Paul F. Austin welcomes physician Dr. Russell Kennedy, “The Anxiety MD,” to discuss healing the root cause of anxiety, and the role that psychedelics can play. Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-243-russell-kennedy-md/ Dr. Kennedy shares his personal journey of healing anxiety stemming from his own childhood adversity. He discusses the connection between the mind and body, the impact of psychedelics on anxiety, and transcending the limiting self-beliefs that physiological states of anxiety can produce. Dr. Kennedy also provides practical practices to connect with the self and overcome anxiety. Offering a neuroscientific overview of anxiety, he emphasizes the importance of changing the alarm sensation in the body to break protective behavioral patterns that may stem from childhood. Additionally, Dr. Kennedy shares his experience with stand-up comedy and its impact on his life. He concludes by discussing his current projects and focus on helping people find relief from anxiety. Dr. Russell Kennedy, also known as "The Anxiety MD," is a visionary physician in the field of anxiety disorders. With a diverse background in medicine, neuroscience, developmental psychology, yoga, meditation, and stand-up comedy, he has redefined the understanding and treatment of anxiety from both scientific and humanistic perspectives. Much of his work is based on overcoming his own lifelong battle with chronic, crippling worry, creating the award winning and best-selling book Anxiety Rx, The Anxiety Rx Podcast, and more recently, MBRX, a step by step mind-body program designed to permanently heal anxiety. Dr. Kennedy is empowering individuals from all over the world to overcome anxiety and embrace a life of calm and fulfilment.   Highlights: How psychedelics and studying childhood trauma informed Dr. Kennedy’s perspective on anxiety A new theory on anxiety The impact of psychedelics on anxiety Why so many people struggle with anxiety Practices to feel more connected and less anxious How to safely bring more awareness to the root causes of anxiety Addressing anxiety stemming from preverbal trauma Developing the courage to feel A physician’s experience as a stand-up comedian Dr. Kennedy's current projects and focuses   Episode Sponsors: Neurohacker Collective: Use code THIRDWAVE for an additional 15% off Qualia Mind. Soltara Healing Center: Use code TW200 to receive $200 off your next retreat.
Apr 16
59 min
Jennifer Tessler - Lotus in Bloom: Meditation, Psychedelics, & Contemplation
In this episode, Jennifer Tessler, Jennifer Tessler, Psychotherapist & Founder of Alalaho, joins Paul F. Austin to discuss contemplative approaches to psychedelic healing. Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-242-jennifer-tessler/ Jennifer shares her journey of self-discovery through travel, meditation, and psychedelics. She discusses the integration of Dzogchen and psychedelics, and the benefits of psychedelics in supporting spiritual practices. Jennifer also talks about the founding of Alalaho Retreats and their focus on providing comprehensive retreat experiences for individuals interested in exploring psychedelics and deepening their spiritual practice. Jennifer explains the core practices in the experience retreat, which include meditation, somatic practices, journaling exercises, nature connection exercises, authentic relating, and ecstatic dance. She also emphasizes the importance of long-term integration and incorporating contemplative elements in the retreats. Additionally, Jennifer shares her vision for offering retreats specifically for clinicians and healthcare practitioners to learn how to deliver psychedelic-assisted therapies. She highlights the need for psychedelic facilitators to have personal experience and expertise in navigating the inner realms. Finally, Jennifer emphasizes the integrity and safety of Alalaho as a container for transformative experiences. Jennifer Tessler embarked on an in-depth exploration of reality and the inner workings of the human mind(heart) following a transformative backpacking journey to Asia in her late teens. There, she was introduced to the profound teachings of Tibetan Buddhism and discovered the sacred use of psychedelic medicines for the first time. Over the next 15 years, she devoted herself to the practice of meditation and the study of psychological healing and spiritual growth, spending close to a thousand days in meditation retreat under the close guidance of her Tibetan Buddhist teacher (a renowned Dzogchen master in the Vajrayana school). Her journey also led her to become an integrative transpersonal psychotherapist, blending Eastern wisdom with Western therapeutic approaches. In 2017, Jennifer began facilitating psilocybin-assisted retreats and co-directing the UK Psychedelic Society's Experience Retreats program, Europe's first legal psilocybin-assisted retreat program. This initiative eventually culminated in the founding of Alalaho, a pioneering organization celebrated for its integrity and heart-centered approach. Jennifer's efforts are dedicated to nurturing the unfolding of the infinite vitality, wisdom, and potential that lies at the core of our being — just like the blossoming of a lotus.   Highlights: LSD in the Himalayas and pivotal journeys to Asia Growing up between Paris and London Training as a transpersonal psychotherapist Understanding Dzogchen Tibetan Buddhism lineages and practices Dzogchen and psychedelics Chögyam Trungpa Rinpoche and Crazy Wisdom Alalaho Retreats Current Focus of Alalaho Jennifer's greater vision for Alalaho Training for clinicians and healthcare practitioners Connect with Alalaho Retreats   Episode Sponsors: New Brew’s non-alcoholic kratom and kava seltzers. Use code THIRDWAVE25 for 25% off. The Coaching Certification Program by Third Wave’s Psychedelic Coaching Institute.
Apr 9
1 hr 1 min
Adrian Lozano - The Heart of Integration: Coaching, Microdosing, & Ethical Group Containers
Adrian Lozano joins host Joseph Anew on The Psychedelic Podcast to discuss psychedelic coaching, integration, and group microdosing. Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-241-adrian-lozano/ In this rich conversation, Adrian shares his journey with psychedelics, from anxiety and depression to living from the heart. He emphasizes the importance of regulating the nervous system and overcoming social anxiety. Adrian also highlights the role of integration and self-regulation in the psychedelic experience. Together, Adrian and Joseph explore the benefits of microdosing and breathwork as tools for personal growth and transformation, and how to build trust with psychedelic medicines. Adrian shares how The Coaching Certification Program transformed his professional trajectory. He offers his perspective on the ever-evolving psychedelic field, highlighting the importance of ethics and community. Adrian also introduces his group microdose program, touching on the power of community in psychedelic integration. Adrian Lozano is a plant medicine facilitator and integration coach. He has been working with psychedelic plant medicines for over 7 years. Plant medicine was the catalyst for his healing journey and now holds space for others to do the same. Through education, guidance, and support Adrian promotes the safe use of plant medicine with intention. He leads retreats, facilitates ceremonies, and supports individuals with microdosing and integration.   Highlights: Living with an open heart: Adrian’s psychedelic path Regulating the nervous system The power of the breathwork in psychedelic healing The importance of integration Microdosing and building trust with the medicine The impact of the Coaching Certification Program The transformation of the psychedelic field Ayahuasca vs. psilocybin The role of psychedelics in modern life The value of personal experience in coaching Adrian's group microdose program Where to find Adrian's work   Episode Sponsors: Joyous microdose ketamine. Book your free consultation today! The Coaching Certification Program by Third Wave’s Psychedelic Coaching Institute.
Apr 1
1 hr 2 min
Oz Garcia - Mindset Means Everything: Fasting, Ketamine, & Meditation
Renowned nutritionist Oz Garcia joins host Paul F. Austin to share his journey from artistry to expertise, diving into the transformative power of fasting for health and longevity. Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-240-oz-garcia/ Oz shares insights on cultivating the right mindset and humility for a fulfilling life, drawing from personal experiences including ketamine therapy for PTSD and long COVID recovery. Oz and Paul delve into the profound intersections of nutrition, spirituality, and healing, exploring topics from sleep and trauma to the evolutionary advantages of altered consciousness. This conversation is a deep dive into holistic well-being and the integration of ancient wisdom with modern practices. Oz Garcia is recognized as an authority on healthy aging, age reversal, and fortifying the immune system. His client list includes A-List celebrities, Fortune 100 CEOs, and more recently, those dealing with Covid and Post-Covid health issues. Oz Garcia's unique and customized approach to nutrition, functional health, and self-optimization, combined with more than forty years of experience, have made him one of the most recognizable names in the industry. Oz Garcia has lectured worldwide and is known as a trailblazer in the study of nutrition, ensuring quality of life as we age, and learning to survive Covid by creating a strong immune system. Oz is the best selling author of five books: The Food Cure for Kids, The Balance, Look and Feel Fabulous Forever, Redesigning 50, and After Covid. He was twice voted best nutritionist by New York Magazine and is frequently called upon by some of the most respected names in medicine and media for his up -to-the-minute views on nutrition and its role in aging and longevity. Oz has served as a Nutritional Advisor for Equinox Fitness as well as a Wellness Partner at Fairmont Hotel Spa in Century City. Oz has been featured in Vogue, Elle, Travel and Leisure, W Magazine, Forbes and The New York Times. He has also made numerous television appearances, including on NBC's Today Show, CBS's This Morning, ABC's Good Morning America, 20/20, 48 Hours, Fox News and The View.   Highlights: Experiences at Mindvalley and A-Fest Exploring the Human Potential Movement From artist to nutritionist Running as a spiritual practice The evolutionary basis of intermittent fasting Oz's journey into fasting and nutrition Understanding fasting types and protocols Mindset is everything The humility of being alive Healing trauma with ketamine and meditation The evolutionary benefits of altered consciousness The transformative power of illness   Episode Sponsors: Neurohacker Collective: Use code THIRDWAVE for an additional 15% off Qualia Mind. The Coaching Certification Program by Third Wave’s Psychedelic Coaching Institute.
Mar 26
1 hr 7 min
Bob Parsons - From Battlefield to Boardroom: A Billionaire’s Story of Trauma, Resilience, & Healing
In this episode, Paul F. Austin is joined by entrepreneur Bob Parsons for a candid dive into his journey healing war trauma with psychedelics. Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-239-bob-parsons/ Bob Parsons, American entrepreneur and philanthropist, shares his journey from failing the fifth grade to becoming a billionaire. He discusses his challenges in school and how the Marine Corps helped him develop discipline and a sense of accomplishment. Parsons also opens up about his psychedelic experiences to heal war trauma and the profound impact they had on his life.  Bob shares about the ongoing psychedelic research he supports through his philanthropic foundation and concludes by discussing his new book, Fire in the Hole, which candidly explores his life and experiences.  This conversation touches on the transformative power of psychedelics to foster deep healing and catalyze significant life changes.  Highlights: Failing the fifth grade and challenges in early life Enlisting in the marine corps and serving in Vietnam Returning home as a Vietnam War vet Transition to entrepreneurship Finding psychedelics to treat war trauma Philanthropic efforts in the psychedelic space Bob’s new book, “Fire in the Hole!”   Bob Parsons: Bob Parsons, best-known as the founder of GoDaddy, is widely recognized for his entrepreneurial and philanthropic efforts. Currently, Bob is the CEO and founder of YAM Worldwide. Bob is a U.S. Marine Corps Vietnam veteran and a recipient of the Purple Heart Medal, Combat Action Ribbon, and Vietnamese Cross of Gallantry. He attended college at the University of Baltimore on the G.I. Bill and graduated magna cum laude. His alma mater presented him with an honorary doctorate in 2008 and named him Distinguished Entrepreneur in 2010. In 2012, Bob founded YAM Worldwide,  which is home to his entrepreneurial ventures in the fields of motorcycles, golf, real estate, finance, marketing, innovation and philanthropy. Over the years, three of Bob’s entrepreneurial ventures—Parsons Technology, GoDaddy, and now PXG (Parsons Xtreme Golf) have been recognized by Inc Magazine as being among America’s fastest growing privately-held companies. Along with Renee, his wife and PXG President of Apparel, Bob started The Bob & Renee Parsons Foundation in 2012 to reach marginalized populations and causes often underfunded by mainstream philanthropy. The Foundation provides transformational grants to nonprofit organizations successfully working in the areas of homelessness, medical care, LGBTQ youth, education and the needs of wounded veterans and military families.   Links: Bob's website Bob and Renee Parsons Foundation Bob on Instagram   Bob's book, Fire In The Hole!   Episode Sponsors: New Brew’s non-alcoholic kratom and kava seltzers. Use code THIRDWAVE25 for 25% off.
Mar 18
56 min
Drs. Katie and Gay Hendricks - A Journey of Commitment: Authenticity, Love, & Relational Transformation
In this episode of The Psychedelic Podcast, renowned authors Gay & Katie Hendricks join host Paul F. Austin to share their insights on conscious loving and the impact of MDMA on relationships. Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-238-drs-katie-and-gay-hendricks Katie and Gay discuss their own journey of meeting and committing to each other, as well as the principles they teach in their work. They reflect on their early use of MDMA to facilitate a deeper connection and self-discovery in relationships. The conversation also explores their work with executives, the importance of commitment and authenticity, and how to balance personal and professional relationships. Through unpacking their journey together, Katie and Gay reveal the power of turning concepts into experiential practices. They share their current and future projects, including Gay’s newest book “Your Big Leap Year.” Gay Hendricks and Kathlyn Hendricks have been pioneers in the fields of body intelligence and relationship transformation for more than forty years. They’ve mastered ways to translate powerful concepts and life skills into experiential processes where people can discover their own body intelligence and easily integrate life-changing skills. Katie and Gay have empowered hundreds of coaches around the world to add a body intelligence perspective to enhance fields from medicine to sports psychology, education, and personal growth. Together and singly they have authored more than forty books, including such bestsellers as Conscious Loving, The Big Leap, Conscious Loving Ever After: How to Create Thriving Relationships at Midlife and Beyond, and The Genius Zone. They have appeared on more than 500 television and radio programs, including Oprah, 48 Hours and others.
Mar 11
1 hr 7 min
Cat Meyer, Psy.D., LMFT - Expanding Eros: Exploring the Multi-Dimensionality of Sex
In this conversation, Paul F. Austin and Dr. Cat Meyer discuss the expansive nature of sex and the importance of redefining it. Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-237-cat-meyer-psyd-lmft They explore the role of microdosing in enhancing vitality and connection, as well as the need for discernment and consent in relationships. Dr. Cat also provides a primer to play parties and offers advice on navigating new experiences safely and intentionally. Dr. Cat Meyer, PsyD, LMFT is a licensed psychotherapist specializing in sex, trauma, and ketamine-assisted therapy, author, yoga teacher, and international speaker dedicated to evolving the relationship we have surrounding sexuality and our bodies. She is the host of the podcast Sex Love Psychedelics and the founder of SexLoveYoga.com, an online platform for education and programs on relationships, sexuality, and embodiment. Highlights: Expanding the definition of sex Lessons from combining sex and psychedelics Microdosing and sexual vitality Vetting partners and building trust Understanding play parties Embodied consent Resources on polyamory, tantra, and BDSM   Links: Dr. Cat’s website: https://www.sexloveyoga.com/ Dr. Cat on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sexloveyoga/ Dr. Cat’s book, “sex love yoga”: https://amzn.to/4bF0p3T   These show links may contain affiliate links. Third Wave receives a small percentage of the product price if you purchase through the above affiliate links.   Episode Sponsors: Neurohacker Collective: Use code THIRDWAVE for an additional 15% off Qualia Mind. The Coaching Certification Program by Third Wave’s Psychedelic Coaching Institute.
Mar 4
52 min
Dillan DiNardo - Designing States of Consciousness: Unique Approaches to Psychedelic Drug Development
Dillan DiNardo, CEO of Mindstate Design Labs, joins Paul F. Austin in exploring the use of AI to design human states of consciousness. Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-236-dillan-dinardo/ Dillan shares his background growing up in a religious community and his journey into psychedelics. He discusses the origin story of Mindstate Design Labs, and the role of language and AI in understanding altered states of consciousness. Dillan also talks about his experience suing the DEA and winning, advocating for the research of psychoactive substances. In this conversation, Dillan sheds light on unique approaches to psychedelic drug development. He envisions “expanding the psychedelic world” to design states of consciousness never before imagined—with therapeutic potential. Dillan DiNardo is the CEO of Mindstate Design Labs, a next-generation psychedelic biotech company designing novel altered states of consciousness for mental health therapeutics. The company's mission is to map the biological basis of the varieties of psychedelic experience, enabling the precision design of novel altered states and a deeper understanding of the biological basis of consciousness. Mindstate Design Labs' backers include Y Combinator and founders of OpenAI, Neuralink, AngelList, Coinbase, Instacart, and Twitch. Prior to Mindstate Design Labs, Dillan worked in a $1 billion venture fund, executing and managing biopharma, medical device, and health tech investments ranging from pre-seed to publicly traded companies.   Highlights: Dillan’s journey from fundamentalist religious upbringing to finding psychedelics Sasha and Ann Shulgin, Tom Ray, and the origin story of Mindstate Design Labs Joining startup accelerator Y Combinator Intentionally designing states of consciousness The role of language and AI in altered states of consciousness Suing the DEA and winning   Links: Mindstate Design Labs: https://www.mindstate.design/ Dillan on Twitter: https://twitter.com/dillandinardo   Episode Sponsors: New Brew’s non-alcoholic kratom and kava seltzers. Use code THIRDWAVE25 for 25% off. Joyous microdose ketamine. Book your free consultation today!
Feb 26
1 hr
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