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Had Enough
When someone is stupid enough to argue that interracial marriages can still be racist if they don’t hew to radical leftist anti-racism ideology, I won’t waste my time on this show any longer.
Engineer Doug
This podcast is awful!
I don’t even know where to begin, but Celeste Headlee is such an absurd arguer. Almost all of my positions are very liberal, and I come into every debate on Celeste’s side, but she argues them so poorly and with terrible tactics like cutting off the guests for an ad breaks but only after she gets the last word in, making blatantly false claims, and throwing in unrelated tangents that the guests don’t have a chance to defend. I almost always sympathize much more with the guests by the end of the show. I usually still don't agree with their opinions, but I feel like they at least made an honest effort. Celeste makes such poor and unfair arguments. I think most of the topics are still very important to debate, but not with her as the host. However, I think I get even angrier at the topics she has that should not even be in this feed. Are cruises cool? Christmas should be tacky? These are 100% debates of people’s preferences with no larger policy or society implications. Instead they just makes me hate her more. This is not a good approach to having real debates where people learn from each other. This is just another example of a self important liberal blowhard giving those of us with a sincere desire to understand different opinions a bad name.
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Elbowpatched
Great content, too much bunched up together though
I have a deep interest in languages and have been enjoying John McWorters’ podcast Lexicon Valley on Booksmart Studio so was happy to find his earlier linguistic musings here as well as the archive of equally linguistically interesting older (2012 to around 2017) episodes of Lexicon Valley by a couple of other linguists. My gripe is that Slate has thrown these non-political linguistic podcasts together with later commentaries about US partisan issues. Why not separate them into different feeds? People interested in linguistics may or, especially if non-Amrricans, may not be interested in American political issues. And people interested in contemporary American issues may not be particularly interested in linguistics and language issues. Moreover, the title with “debate” is incorrect. The two linguists are not debating each other. They are discussing certain questions— and usually seem to agree with each other. No debates.
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Bilas Peles
Narrow debates
I agree with other reviewers that this show is ideologically narrow. The debaters basically stipulate to a leftist worldview and then debate within its confines. To me as an agnostic, it’s like listening to Christian theologians debate in every episode topics that presuppose a god (divine grace, the holy trinity, miracles, etc.).
Jerome1223
Podcast on mental health
Waow ! This was an outstanding exchange. Not sure it is about agreeing or disagreeing but embracing the fact that the human mind is unique and that we are creatures of nuance and contradictions that need to be handled so that we can move forward. In the US, we like black & white solutions and placing people and their issues into boxes. It comes as reassuring but real life and real people - whether psychotic or not - are always evolving shades of grey.
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Tulip.be
I liked the old linguistics podcast
Not sure what this is..it isn’t what I subscribed to..so unsubbing.
BrandonIrvin 1
If you love debate but hate facts…
Then this is the show for you. An absolutely google-free environment
lu and ru fan
Interesting but insincere
These aren’t true debates. The host clearly favors a certain side from the start. The host has an unfair advantage at steering the conversation compared to the guests. That said, a lot of the conversations show me new sides to these issues. Overall it has a r/changemymind feel to it, not a debate feel.
Pink Duck Princess
An attempt to fake a subscriber count
Let’s be honest, this show is mid at best, not particularly interesting and definitely not what it reports to be. So why am I still subscribed? I’m subscribed because at one point this show was a very interesting linguistics show, called Lexicon Valley. And they still have the backlog of episodes that I enjoy listening to. So why have they put an honestly bad show that is completely unrelated to what it originally was, instead of leaving the backlog of episodes to simply exist. Because they can make more money if they claim they have more listeners than they actually do. This show is nothing but an idiotic and stupid cash graph, which I am subscribed to only because of its backlog of interesting episodes.
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Losasta
This is not the linguistics podcast.
Instead, you have "debates." Or, more specially, milquetoast perspectives by people you, as a Slate listener, will likely agree with. The host does little in the way of providing counter arguments or remotely insightful questions. It's a snoozefest.
A Calendar Enthusiasr
Not a debate show
This is not really a show where people debate. The episodes I’ve heard are two people on the left parsing out what the best leftist position would be. Listening to the newest ep on DEI is just an interview. There is no pushback.
you don't know who I am
Hmm.
I want to like it. I love linguistics, but I can’t. Too political. I would rate 4 or 5 stars if John Mcwhorter were back. Go to lexicon valley.
JeffersonStatePatriot
Fun and informative
I’m enjoying the new hosts and format. I’m learning a lot about linguistics and then getting to have a little fun with the games at the end.
mrsbagnet
The “play” brings it down
The “play” brings it down from 5 to 3 stars. Be confident enough in your first two segments, commentary and interview, to make that the whole show.
HTR4444
Non-affirming and othering language
On a podcast about words and language and how they matter, was disappointed with the use of normative language around neurodiversity (e.g. “neuro-atypical”, referring to people as “normal” in comparison to a neurodiverse person) on the 11/10/2021 episode.
Solre Lami
Wanted to like it, but…
I think I gave this a fair chance, but it is so uninteresting. Episodes that are nothing but half-hour advertisements, quizzes that are targeted at guests and not listeners (are we really expected to know what year songs were released?), and just generally dull. How can you make talking about such an interesting subject so boring? I don’t know, but it’s time to unsubscribe.
coasterbear
Latinx?
Latino is already the neuter gender
Pete Trg
Better for puzzle fans?
This podcast is a good addition to the Slate Slate. I find myself listening to it once a month. It has one focus for those who are fans of word games and puzzles.
Kilio’opu
Re: Squid Game in Translation
I was delighted to hear a coverage of Korean language, but the pronunciation of almost every vowels were bastardized by the hosts. Instead of trying to do the bare minimum of comparing their sound against the show’s speaker, they decided to read them as if they are reading English words. For example, the first syllable of “mukbang” is pronounced as “muck-”, not “mook-“. After the third or fourth of these errors, I stopped listening. Instead of clarifying the horrible translation they talk about, they add to the misrepresentation.
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Self proclaimed app expert
Go straight to the archives!
There are 5+ years of excellent archives of Lexicon Valley from when it was hosted by Bob Garfield/Mike Vuolo and then the brilliant John McWhorter. Go straight to the archives and skip the lackluster “spectacular vernacular” rebrand. The reboot seems to be a result of the talent leaving to make their shows for a different studio. The new version of the show is uninspired, sounds like sponsored content.
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brontel_muskel
A must listen!
I love the new direction the show has taken. The hosts are personable and engaging. They are a breath of fresh air. It’s time for linguistics to come out of the Dark Ages with new and younger talent with fresh perspectives.
ling4theculture
Essential linguistics-listening
Smart takes grounded in contemporary academic linguistics while still being fun and light.
SiFiBa
wonderful mix of erudition and fun!
I absolutely love the changes to this podcast. The new hosts are clearly incredibly well-informed but without any stuffiness. I’ve learned something from every episode and I particularly like playing along with the language games. Two thumbs up, thanks for the fantastic podcast!
kbmcgowan
I subscribe to this in order to keep the back episodes of McWhorter’s Lex Valley
This podcast feed was previously John McWhorter’s “Lexicon Valley”, which is no longer carried by Slate. But all of his old episodes until recently are still on this feed, and I recommend digging past the recent “Spectacular Vernacular” episodes and listening to John’s, then subscribing to his new incarnation of Lexicon Valley and following that. The new show “Spectacular Vernacular” comes off as something you’d hear on NPR during a sleepy, runny-nosed morning commute in winter... I would suggest that Slate find a way to be exuberant, bold, intellectually stimulating and exploratory and not just stick to safe tepid niceties ... this review was written at 6am so may rewrite when less grumpy but, don’t say I didn’t warn you!
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CermakJack
LOVE the pod now!
I have to say that I LOVE the podcast the way it is now, totally refreshed from the previous iteration with that other guy. The new hosts are great, and I particularly enjoy Dr. Nicole Holliday's fun personality and really thoughtful and informed takes on the different topics they cover. Plus the trivia is so much fun! Strong recommend!
KF in DC
Excellent and accessible
A fascinating podcast on a range of language issues, accessible to those unfamiliar with the field yet interesting for professional linguists as well.
msulinguist
About time!
Nicole Holliday has been a guest on so many of my favorite linguistics podcasts that it’s about time she got her own! Even though linguistic superstar, Ben Zimmer, and Nicole just got started, the show is off to a brilliant start. Kudos to both of them!
purrfekt
Enlightening and amusing look at the English language
If you enjoy linguistics or are just curious about the oddities and history of the English language, hosts Nicole Holliday and Ben Zimmer and their guests do a fantastic job of sharing cool information that will enlighten and amuse you. And, they even have cool word games you can play along with at home.
brucery
Loving the new show!
Nicole Halliday and Ben Zimmer are delightful (and highly qualified) co-hosts, and this podcast has something to offer for amateur language lovers and professional linguists alike. It looks like Slate switched out the podcast in this feed without warning, which understandably upset some subscribers, but new listeners should definitely give Spectacular Vernacular a try.
lwolter
Incredible podcast with incredible hosts
Speaking as a linguist, Spectacular Vernacular is the best language-oriented podcast out there. Its hosts are eminently qualified and bring to bear up-to-date scholarship and keen insight on the language issues of our time. They are also fun to listen to. I’m not a big fan of the language game at then end, but you can’t please everybody with everything. While this should be beside the point, one thing I like about the podcast is that both hosts have extremely pleasant voices. Just hearing them makes me happy.
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DMort27
New listener - here to stay
As a linguist and podcast enthusiast, I gave Lexicon Valley a wide WIDE berth due to McWhorter’s politics and really disappointing misinformation spread concerning linguistics. BUT the absolute joy I feel having Spectacular Vernacular to listen to now? Unmatched. Ben and Nicole are both highly qualified, and also bring a great deal of joy and years of experience and knowledge to the podcast. I’m looking forward to continuing to listen to the podcast, and moving forward I’m excited to have another podcast to share with my students who have an interest in linguistics.
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Kachokie
Regular dose of language knowledge is great!
I'm really loving this podcast - I know very little about language or linguistics, yet the hosts make learning about these topics seem accessible and fun. I also really enjoy the word games/puzzles that they are doing with listeners. This is one podcast I try to listen to as soon as the new episode comes out.
achmorrison
Best Language Lingo in the World
Outstanding hosts who deal with all sorts of linguistic things. Probably the best language pod ever in the world.
Max Edison
A fun linguistic romp, with puzzles!
a lighthearted but substantive podcast delving into language-related topics. The new hosts bring with them excellent, complementary qualifications: Zimmer is a language columnist and regular composer of NYT crosswords, while Holliday is a researcher and professor who obtained her PhD at one of the country's top linguistics programs (NYU) and now teaches at another (UPenn). But the tone is casual and friendly, like a fun conversation between nerdy friends.
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dialect jen
Word Heaven
A must for word freaks, extremely entertaining and informative even if your relationship with language is a distant, troubled one. I always look forward to the next episode.
Berton in the Palisades
Refreshing and Relatable
As a former listener of Lexicon Valley I was impressed by the level of discipline put into each episode of Spectacular Vernacular and the deep cuts for relevant guests. Keeping a light hearted atmosphere helps me to enjoy the podcast at all times of the day during my daily routine. I’m excited to see how they develop the show. Keep up the good work!
JTillman_
Great for all word/language lovers!
It may be a relatively new show, but Nicole and Ben seem like they’ve been doing this for years! Their love of language and expertise shine through in every segment and interview that they do, and they do a fantastic job distilling their linguistic background into information the average listener can understand.
Blappo
Loving this show!
I initially subscribed because as a linguistics nerd I’ve loved and followed Nicole Holliday’s work on Twitter. This podcast is the perfect blend of pop culture, linguistic nerd insights, and the fun word games I’ve loved from the NPR Sunday puzzle.
alkmcc
Love the new hosts
As a linguistics professor, I have been following Holliday and Zimmer for years. I am so thankful for their expertise and love the exuberance they exude when talking about language.
hmLPA
Deceptive change
Really liked the podcast when John was he host. All the sudden he is not the host without any explanation. Thought maybe he was taking a short break. You are being quite disingenuous taking his success and ratings as your own. Why not use a new platform? Fortunately found Lexicon Valley with new episodes.
ardilla volando
I didn’t subscribe to this
I am incredibly annoyed that the Lexicon Valley feed has been replaced with another podcast. It’s disingenuous and underhanded, and any inclination I may have previously had to listen to this new podcast has been killed. Do not pay attention to the four star rating. This is not John McWhorter’s Lexicon Valley
PerspicacticPariah
Not the podcast I subscribed to
Don’t scam the old feed when you cancel a show.
shotsy
New, post-McWhorter version is horrible
I was optimistic, it would be great to have an additional linguistics podcast from a different perspective. However that is only if the perspective is not just amateur hour. The new hosts show themselves to be lacking basic fundamentals of linguistics. Everyone makes mistakes, but the entire approach of these two is mistaken. The first episode is full of factual errors small and large, including many of the ignorant misconceptions which actual linguists find annoying and tiresome.
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zsrhnfetdh
:/
The new show doesn’t have any of the joy, energy, charm of lexicon valley. I came to this podcast pretty late, so I’m lucky to have a lot of John’s episodes to listen to still. I don’t believe I’ll stick around after that.
jillemon
Oh no!! Vocal fry!! UGH
This is ghastly to listen to. Holliday talks like baby snooks! I can’t believe she’s is professor of anything. Time fir some vocal training. Too awful to overcome the intellectual appeal of linguistics. What a waste. Bye bye!
JJRROMI
Bait and switch
First there were two hosts (forgot their names) and they were pretty good. Then John McWhorter replaced them, and the show got great. But it wasn’t a bait and switch, as the title, form, and substance were the same. This is new hosts, new name, new format, and after listening to the first episode, no thanks. Shame on you for piggybacking off of the success of others. If you make a new show, make a new show, don’t keep the years of great reviews from McWhorter and others. Shame on you.
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Mc felony
New show is awful
The new hosts are the epitome of the positive PC voice of death. And I don’t appreciate the bait and switch.
FlyJas
McWhorter is fantastic
McWhorter does a spectacular job breaking down the elements of human communication.
Sprawlaholic
Hate the new show
Since I’m not a moron and like hearing thing s John mcwhorter creates since he’s smarter than podcast reviewers. No. The real issue and the reason skate gets 1 star is because this is a bait and switch. I don’t wake up one day to find I’m now subscribed to some random podcast. That’s bad form and a bad look over all. It’s piggy backing and incredibly weak. You want your new word podcast to take off then make it take off don’t just shove it into the old podcasts feed and hope that it survives without people noticing. Interestingly it is kind of taking a thing a smart black guy worked to build up then kind of appropriating it. So that’s interesting. Unsub because this is embarrassing business practice. Make a good podcasts and get subs from the ground up don’t just swoop in.
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Rexqesdr
Fraud
Sad these guys use the ratings from John McWhorter’s Lexicon Valley to boost something different. Find the real show.
H-g8r
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