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March 26, 2020
Most of us are cooped up inside our homes and are social distancing in response to COVID-19. If we live with people, this marathon of close proximity may engage our feelings and heighten both the good and bad elements in our relationships. In this episode, Lisa Gungor joins Michael to talk about fighting, communication, and how they have grown over the years. To put your event on the calendar for one of the virtual rooms, go to theliturgists.com/community and follow the link that says schedule. You are not alone! You can join us each Sunday to talk with other liturgists around the world and meet in small groups. It is one of the most meaningful things we do. To find out more, visit theliturgists.com and look for the "Join The Liturgists" button.
March 19, 2020
Dr. Hillary McBride, Science Mike, William Matthews, and Michael Gungor talk about COVID-19 and its impact on our health, culture, and economy. Many news sources are discussing the pandemic using the titles "Coronavirus" or "COVID-19." Here are some quick facts and terminology to help you understand what it all means: This virus is a "novel coronavirus," meaning it is a new coronavirus that humans have not experienced before The virus' name is SARS-CoV-2 The disease caused by SARS-CoV-2 is called COVID-19 which stands for Coronavirus Disease-2019 There are 3 strategies that health experts recommend: Hygienic measures like frequent hand-washing, avoiding touching your face, always covering your mouth and nose when you cough or sneeze, and STAYING HOME when you exhibit any symptoms of illness. Sanitizing surfaces often, like light switches, door knobs, desks, and counter-tops. Social Distancing (more on this below) A primary way to aid in this crisis is the third point: social distancing. Here are the 3 elements of proper social distancing: Meet in-person with people less often. When you do meet with people, limit how many people are present. (As of mid-March 2020 that looks like less than 10 people at one time.) When you interact with people, keep a 6 foot bubble around yourself. Greet with a wave and show kindness with your words instead of handshakes, hugs, or other physical touch. Here are 6 ideas for how to cope with stress and isolation during this time: Be physically active in your home through yoga, push ups, stretching or our favorite: a dance party! Physical activity allows your body to release tension instead of storing it. Using movement and expression can help our nervous system get back to a state of rest. Strategically be active in open, outdoor spaces where few people are. Go for a walk in the woods, hike on a trail, or run in a large open park. Talk virtually with friends and family often. Here at The Liturgists, we are running The Sunday Thing every Sunday at 11am Pacific as a way to get connected with people — you are invited! Visit theliturgists.com and there is a big button to sign up. Practice meditation and mindfulness. Even for just a few moments a day notice what is happening with your thoughts and see if you can try to catch them if they are wandering into anxiety-laden territory Scan your body regularly for tension, if you notice it, try to take some breaths, soften your muscles, or practice progressive Muscle Relaxation (you can look lots of these audio tracks and scripts up online). Play, create, make, express, design, write. Move things through you existentially. Turning your inside stuff into something on the outside can be so empowering. You can transform your pain and uncertainty into something beautiful you can see. Plus, share what you are making by going to theliturgists.com/make You can also stay up-to-date with the CDC's COVID-19 Resource Guide. You are not alone! You can join us each Sunday to talk with other liturgists around the world and meet in small groups. It is one of the most meaningful things we do. To find out more, visit theliturgists.com and look for the "Join The Liturgists" button.
March 12, 2020
Deconstruction is a common experience for people in The Liturgists Community. We all have stories of how we grew up, memories of what we were taught, and key ideas that still influence us. We may use many words to describe our deconstruction: freeing, scary, lonely, or exciting. The social cost of deconstruction can also be very high. We may feel like our social circles alienated us, or that our family abandoned us. In this episode, Dr. Hillary McBride and Michael Gungor talk about deconstruction and how it affects us. They explore the emotions that we feel, the narratives we tell ourselves, and how we can embrace healthy outlooks and overcome the difficult aspects of deconstruction. You are not alone! You can join us each Sunday to talk with other liturgists around the world and meet in small groups. It is one of the most meaningful things we do. To find out more, visit theliturgists.com and look for the "Join The Liturgists" button.
March 5, 2020
While pleasure is usually positive and suffering usually negative, Christian culture often celebrates suffering while denigrating pleasure. Phrases like "dying to the flesh" highlight how we learn to internalize martyrdom in order to please God. Unfortunately, when we suppress our personal needs to conform to this social norm, the result can often lead to a loss of identity. In this episode, Linda Kay Klein, Dr. Hillary McBride, and Michael Gungor talk about the complexity of pleasure, and Linda shares how her fixation on suffering landed her in the hospital at one point in her life. They discuss different ways of understanding pleasure and suffering and how we can all develop a healthier perspective. You are not alone! You can join us each Sunday to talk with other liturgists around the world and meet in small groups. It is one of the most meaningful things we do. To find out more, visit theliturgists.com and look for the "Join The Liturgists" button.
February 27, 2020
There is a God shaped hole in your heart, or at least that's what a white Jesus texted his friend in the tract you read as a kid. We were told we need Jesus because total depravity — our inherent defect — has separated us from God. As well, the idea of hell is a strong incentive to share the story of Jesus with others, because if we don't share those people will be tormented forever. In many communities, Jesus was the way people cleaned up their lives, got off drugs or alcohol, and found stability. Being invited into a supportive community like a church is what some people needed to find a job and thrive. What do we do with the religious superiority that stems from seeing everyone else as inherently wrong? What do we do when we see everyone else as needing a life altering conversion? What do we do with the way colonialism has been paired with evangelism to ignore and scrub away people's culture and context? Often the way people teach others about Jesus misses the entire message of who Jesus was. In this episode, Dr. Hillary McBride, William Matthews, and Michael Gungor talk about these ideas of needing Jesus and sharing Jesus with others. We recorded live at The Solvang Folk School Talks in Solvang, California. You are not alone! You can join us each Sunday to talk with other liturgists around the world and meet in small groups. It is one of the most meaningful things we do. To find out more, visit theliturgists.com and look for the "Join The Liturgists" button.
February 20, 2020
Scapegoating is a common human response to difficult situations. We have a tendency to point to another group of people as the source of our world's woes. But is the solution simply saying "they" are the problem? What happens when "they" scapegoat "us" in response? In this episode, Peter Rollins and Michael Gungor talk about how we can engage in productive conflict in a world where technological advancements have only highlighted how much we disagree, and how we can see ourselves through other people's eyes to overcome social challenges together. Peter Rollins is a philosopher, storyteller, producer, public speaker, and author of numerous books, including Insurrection, The Idolatry of God, and The Divine Magician.  Peter earned his PhD in Post-Structural Thought from Queens University. You are not alone! You can join us each Sunday to talk with other liturgists around the world and meet in small groups. It is one of the most meaningful things we do. To find out more, visit theliturgists.com and look for the "Join The Liturgists" button.
February 13, 2020
Many of us feel like something is wrong with us if we are single. Some times we don't feel loved or feel unlovable. But what does it mean to be "single?" And what does it mean to be "loved?" Those don't have to be related. The way we receive love or feel love for ourselves is often tied up in how other people view us and the cultural norms we experience everyday. What if we separated those? In this episode, Dr. Hillary McBride, Key Williams, Jamie Lee Finch, and Michael Gungor talk about the dynamics that affect how we live and experience love. We can tell ourselves a different story about being single — a positive story that we can experience love regardless of our relationship status. You are not alone! You can join us each Sunday to talk with other liturgists around the world and meet in small groups. It is one of the most meaningful things we do. To find out how to join The Liturgists, visit theliturgists.com and look for the "Join The Liturgists" button.
February 6, 2020
Feeling shame and guilt when our beliefs change can be overwhelming. Our relationships with family, friends, and partners can seem to pivot solely on a shared understanding of what we believe. When our beliefs change we may fear that if people find out, they will not approve, or worse, they might abandon us. We may also feel anxious about not knowing what we believe and uncertain about where we are headed. Is changing what we think bad, or is it just a natural part of growth? In this episode, Michael Gungor and Dr. Hillary McBride talk about belief, change, and why we should embrace healthy growth. You can also join us each Sunday to talk with other liturgists around the world and meet in small groups. We also talk online everyday. To find out how to join The Liturgists to be a part of that community, visit theliturgists.com and look for the "Join The Liturgists" button.
January 30, 2020
History is literally a story we tell ourselves about what happened in the past. The way we tell that story is usually influenced by the people who have cultural and political power. We heard from so many of you from around the world about how whiteness affects our perception of history. In this episode Andre Henry, Propaganda, and Nikki Blak join William Matthews to talk about those influential dynamics. They discuss how we can help others and ourselves by viewing history from several vantage points. We can look into our past to understand ourselves better and use empathy to see the richness other people's stories bring to the tapestry of history. During the month of February we will be releasing a very special project called "Black History Is American History" via daily episodes covering heroes, icons, and titans in American history. We will release them every day on a separate feed you can sign up for and to our members via the member feed. Find out more by going to theliturgists.com/blackhistory You can also join us each Sunday to talk with other liturgists around the world and meet in small groups. We also talk online everyday. To find out how to join The Liturgists to be a part of that community, visit theliturgists.com and look for the "Join The Liturgists" button.
January 23, 2020
Purity culture represents the main narrative around sex education and relationships for many people. It taught us ideas about ourselves and about other people that we often feel like we can't leave behind. In today's episode, Hillary and Michael are joined by Linda Kay Klein as they discuss purity culture and pull apart a story we may tell ourselves: "I am impure." Linda is the author of the book Pure, which covers the sexual purity movement in the evangelical church and the "purity industry" that formed along with it. Her interviews and stories outline the resulting anxiety, fear, and experiences that trap people in a cycle of shame. Sexual shame is not confined to evangelical culture and Linda's book serves as a powerful wake-up call about our society’s subjugation of women. This episode does cover traumatic experiences. We want to offer a content warning as well as suggest some mental health resources for you to use. Speaking with a professional, licensed therapist is a way to work through trauma in a way that is safe and "become stronger at the broken places." You are not alone. You can also join us each Sunday and talk with other liturgists around the world and meet in small groups. We also talk online everyday. To find out how to join The Liturgists to be a part of that community, visit theliturgists.com and look for the "Join The Liturgists" button. Resources: https://www.breakfreetogether.org https://aedpinstitute.org/find-an-aedp-institute-therapist/search/ https://directory.traumahealing.org https://www.emdria.org/search/ https://lifespanintegration.com/directory/ https://www.sensorimotorpsychotherapy.org/directory.html https://sstarnet.org/find-a-therapist/
December 19, 2019
Sometimes we leave one set of problems only to find ourselves in a new situation with the same problems. In this episode, Michael and Hillary speak with Emily Capshaw about her experience of leaving Christianity only to find some of the same problems in other belief systems. They talk candidly about how to avoid swapping one fundamentalism for another. We’d love to hear from you! If you have ideas for topics of discussion or guests you would like us to talk with on The Liturgists Podcast, please let us know and vote here: https://theliturgists.com/vote Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
November 28, 2019
In this episode, we share one of our private meditations that our patrons get access to each week. Lisa Gungor leads the meditation and it is called "You Are Safe" We’d love to hear from you! If you have ideas for topics of discussion or guests you would like us to talk with on The Liturgists Podcast, please let us know and vote here: https://theliturgists.com/vote Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
November 21, 2019
Racism is a widespread issue in all spheres of society. People participate in racism knowingly or unknowingly and with or without intention to do so. While racism may not involve physical abuse or violent behaviors, it can be manifested through people's attitudes as well as their actions. But can something be done about it? Yes, we must call out racism. Each one of us can actively embrace anti-racism and help combat racial prejudice and bigotry.  Today on the podcast, Andre joins William Matthews to chat about anti-racism. In the conversation, Andre talks about his experience speaking out against racial injustice as well as share solutions to fighting racism. Andre Henry is a writer, speaker, musician, and activist with a deep passion for racial justice and social change. We’d love to hear from you! If you have ideas for topics of discussion or guests you would like us to talk with on The Liturgists Podcast, please let us know and vote here: https://theliturgists.com/vote Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
November 14, 2019
Michael Gungor and Science Mike talk about their experiences with church, God, science, scripture, theology, tradition, and more at the Los Angeles stop of the Tabs & Wafers Tour. The talk is an honest look at how some people experience Christianity and evangelicalism in the United States and how to find sincerity when it can be difficult to find a community. We’d love to hear from you! If you have ideas for topics of discussion or guests you would like us to talk with on The Liturgists Podcast, please let us know and vote here: https://theliturgists.com/vote Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
November 7, 2019
Lauren Evans and Lisa Gungor talk about creative flow and how people who create art, music, and other creative work can make what is right for them. Finding her authentic voice served as an important life quest, because Lauren’s early work required her to be a creative chameleon. Lauren also talks about her life growing up, her spiritual experiences, and how the typical separation of “secular” and “christian/religious” did not mean as much to her in her journey. Lisa recounts how she had positive experiences within her church upbringing, but how she also found it difficult to write great music until she embraced what she is good at instead of following the typical path. We’d love to hear from you! If you have ideas for topics of discussion or guests you would like us to talk with on The Liturgists Podcast, please let us know and vote here: https://theliturgists.com/vote Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
October 24, 2019
In August of 2019, Michael Gungor, Science Mike, William Matthews, and Jamie Lee Finch embarked on a trip to the Arctic circle to experience some of the last untouched wilderness on the planet and hear from the Gwich'in people. The Gwich'in are Athabaskan-speaking Indigenous peoples who lives in the Arctic region of Alaska and Canada. Their sacred lands include areas within the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. In September 2019, the Trump Administration said it would "seek to open up the entire coastal plain of the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge to oil and gas exploration, picking the most aggressive development option for an area long closed to drilling" to cite The Washington Post.  The violence and destruction caused by the removal of long standing protections by the United States is difficult to overstate. This episode is the story of our trip to that area, and what we learned from the people there. We want to give a special shout out to The Wilderness Society for making this episode possible and to Dan Ritzman from Arctic Wild for his guidance in Alaska. This episode is sponsored by our friends at the No Place Like Home podcast.  No Place Like Home is a podcast that gets to the heart of climate change.  Hosts Mary Anne Hitt and Anna Jane Joyner explore the biggest story of our time—climate change—from intimate, creative, and surprising angles.  Find and subscribe to No Place Like Home at noplacelikehomepodcast.com or on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, or wherever you find your favorite podcasts.
October 10, 2019
Some changes are normal and happen every day, while others are higher stakes and affect every area of our lives.  Whether they took place in our childhood or occurred later in life, changes often make us feel scared or anxious because of the unknowns they bring with them.In this episode, William, Hillary, and Vishnu have a conversation about change, how we experience it, and how we can navigate change in our lives.This episode was sponsored by BetterHelp. Get 10% off your first month of safe, private, affordable mental health counseling by visiting http://betterhelp.com/liturgists
October 3, 2019
This week we're talking about porn: what it is, how we feel about it, and what roles is plays in our culture. Joining us in the conversation are the following people: Hillary McBrideMichael GungorWilliam MatthewsMike McHargueKey WilliamsCaroline LeeJenny McHargueKevin Garcia This episode was sponsored by Betterhelp. Get 10% your first month of safe, private, affordable mental health counseling by visiting http://betterhelp.com/liturgists.
September 19, 2019
Pete Holmes returns for a conversation with Michael Gungor and Science Mike to discuss his latest book, Comedy Sex God. This episode was sponsored by Betterhelp. Get 10% your first month of safe, private, affordable mental health counseling by visiting http://betterhelp.com/liturgists.
September 12, 2019
It's ENNEAGRAM MADNESS. Today we have not one, not two, but three episodes about the Enneagram featuring one of our favorite teachers: Annie Dimond. This episode was sponsored by Betterhelp. Get 10% your first month of safe, private, affordable mental health counseling by visiting http://betterhelp.com/liturgists. Annie Dimond is a teacher of the Enneagram Personality and a PhD Student of Practical Theology at The University of Aberdeen in Scotland. In this episode, Annie and Mike McHargue dive deeper into the Enneagram by exploring its 27 subtypes and how it can act as a map for healing and self-acceptance.    To learn more about Annie Dimond, visit her website: enneagramforwholeness.com   For more about Ryan O'Neal and his music visit: sleepingatlast.com   To learn more about Enneagram Subtypes:  The Complete Enneagram: 27 Paths to Greater Self-Awareness by Beatrice Chestnut BRIEF DESCRIPTION OF CENTERS OF INTELLIGENCE AND PERCEPTION (enneagramworldwide.com)   8,9, 1 - Body or Gut Type Body-based types lead with the body for movement, sensate awareness and gut-level knowing. Their focus is on personal security, control, social belonging and taking right action. Also known as the Instinctual Center.   5,6,7 - Head Type Thinking-based, head types lead with ideas, gathering information, figuring things out and rational decision-making before acting. Their focus is on creating certainty and safety, or finding multiple options. Also known as the Intellectual Center. 2,3,4 - Heart Type Feeling-based types emphasize the heart for positive and negative feelings, empathy and concern for others, romance and devotion. Their focus is on success and relationship, performing up to expectations of the job or other people. Also known as the Emotional Center.   BRIEF DESCRIPTION OF THE SUBTYPES -  (enneagramworldwide.com)   Our evolution as human beings has required three basic survival strategies, known as the basic instincts: Self-preservation – responding to perceived threats and needs Social – creating social structures within communities One-to-one – primary relationships or coupling TYPE 2 - THE GIVER Self-preservation: Privilege – The Nurturer -  the nurturers excel in fostering warm relationships with all kinds of people, and spends a lot of attention on supporting and nurturing others. This can sometimes lead those within this subtype to feel entitled when it’s time for them to get their own needs met. They can at times have a prideful attitude about this, and a kind of false modesty, where the insistance on helping other firsts creates a kind of value.   Social: Ambition – The Ambassador - this subtype can value social approval and visible accomplishments as a way to get more self esteem. They can empathize and tune in to the needs of others to create a sense of importance, or even an indispensible role. For them, being allied with the right person in the right way, is more important than being at the centre of it all.  One-to-One: Seduction/Aggression – The Lover - this subtype uses warmth and attunement to others to make connections or deepn relationships and win the approval of a specific someone, even if just for a time. They can appear seductive in their body language and verbal tone, although not necessarily sexually so. At times this can appear as aggressive with demands for personal attention and affirmation.    TYPE 3 - THE PERFORMER Self-preservation: Security – The Company Man/Woman - With this subtype, a person’s ability to work hard, and perform at a high level an create a good image can be used to create material success. With all their commitment and energy, they can accomplish all sorts of things, including creating financial security, getting all the nice things, etc. but the risk is losing touch with who they really are in the process of it all, and becoming too identifiied with work.  Social: Prestige – The Politician - for this subtype the drive for achievement is geared towards winning social approval, and knowing the right people, getting the right kind of power in the right system or institution. This could be a kind of genuine social leadership, or more about self-aggrandizement through image curation. One-to-One: Femininity/Masculinity – The Movie Star - The ability to create the right image is about focusing on performing the gendered ideal. For example, they may try to create personal power by being attractive as a woman or man. But underneath it all their might be some confusion about their identity. People with this type tend to be more of a performer,  whether on stage, or in their day to day lives.    TYPE 4 - THE ROMANTIC Self-preservation: Dauntlessness – The Creative Individualist - people in this subtype tend to be willing to jump into new situations, get up and go, taks risks, or to take off when their preservation instinct gets activated, or when authenticity or an authentic life seems to be anywhere but here. To other poeple, they might seem reckless, careless, or without any caution, but this works well with a creative, artistic, or expressive lifestyle. For this type, they might have a tension between wanting to aquire material goods, and feeling disconnected from it all.  Social: Shame/Honor – The Critical Commentator - for people with this type, they may feel deficient based on what is happening in social situations, and can feel envious of others poeple with more social status, or who seem to belong. They likely want to establish an acceptable social role , possibly the one who is the truth teller about emotional content, and feels the need to resolve tension between the dsire to live authentically, and what is expected of them socially.  One-to-One: Competitiveness – The Dramatic Person - this subtype uses competition with others to overcome a sense of deficiency internally,  and create the drive to complete a personal agenda. They may see the power and strenghts of others as a challenge, and judge their own value, either the increase or decrease of their sense of their own worth, based on  comparison to others.    TYPE 8 - THE PROTECTOR  Self-preservation: Satisfactory Survival – The Survivalist - In this subtype, the Eight’s aggressiveness and excess are channeled into physical survival and material security. In a hostile world, the self-preservation Eight will either win or go down fighting. Fiercely protective of friends and family, this subtype can establish more territory and stockpile more supplies than anyone, but in a friendly world, may miss the boat altogether. Social: Friendship/Social Causes – The Group Leader/Gang Leader - A sense of powerlessness or injustice is overcome by being part of an aligned group, usually in a leadership role. This subtype’s anger and aggression are mediated by the group’s needs, and harnessed for a common agenda. Loyalty to friends and social causes take precedence over personal feelings and needs. One-to-One: Possession/Surrender – The Commander - A one-to-one Eight uses forcefulness and self-assertion to possess (or control) a partner or significant others. At times unable to adapt or let go, a strong enough yearning to be met fully can help this subtype let go of control and turn it over to a partner.   TYPE 9 - THE MEDIATOR Self-preservation: Appetite – The Collector - This subtype excels at creating the practical infrastructure and the daily rhythms that support instinctual life. But there is a tendency to fall asleep to personal needs or narcotize oneself with food and other kinds of material consumption. (They are often collectors.) A life of material abundance and comfort can preclude efforts toward personal or spiritual growth. Social: Participation – The Community Benefactor - Blending well with the style and priorities of their friends and different social networks, this subtype has the ability to be both a leader and a selfless supporter for the common good but can be numb to their personal priorities when in a comfortable social role  One-to-One: Union – The Seeker - This subtype has a longing to merge, either with a partner, nature or Spirit. This can be indiscriminate or heedless at times, but also can be a doorway into a transcendent state. In daily life, this can become problematic with keeping personal boundaries and focus, since it’s so easy to be pulled outside of oneself.   TYPE 1 - THE PERFECTIONIST  Self-preservation: Anxiety – The Pioneer - This subtype can be anxious or self controlled, but there is a focus on concerns about survival and security that get channeled into success. The focus here tends to be on being a good person, doing the right thing. This can be done by having control over nature, and imposing order. With this subtype, family life and the home, food prep, all the day to day things can take precedence over other needs. For these subtypes, too much self sacrifice can lead to tension in the body and resentment. Social: Inadaptability – The Social Reformer - Comfortable with a secure social role and a clear set of rules, this subtype is usually quite friendly and gregarious on one’s own turf. But an emphasis on doing things the right way can make it hard to adapt to new situations, and also can generate resentment or criticism toward others who may be acting “incorrectly.” One-to-One: Jealousy/Zealousness – The Evangelist - With clear rules and standards for correct behavior, this subtype keeps a highly charged instinctual center under strict self-control, leading at times to over zealousness in everything. Keeping a partner’s attention is vital to avoid self-recrimination. Jealousy toward a partner is common, and also may be experienced toward others who seem to have more room for self-expression. TYPE 2 - THE GIVER Self-preservation: Privilege – The Nurturer - Excelling in creating warm, personable relationships with many kinds of people, this subtype spends much attention on supporting and nurturing others, which can lead to a feeling of entitlement when it comes to getting one’s own needs met. This can contribute to a prideful attitude, or an insistence on going last that supports another kind of specialness, as in false modesty. Social: Ambition – The Ambassador - Gaining self-esteem through both social approval and visible accomplishments, this subtype empathizes and attunes to other’s needs to create an important, even indispensable role within an organization or cause. Being allied with the right people is usually more important than taking center stage. One-to-One: Seduction/Aggression – The Lover - This subtype uses all of the Two’s capacity for interpersonal attunement to make a connection and win the approval of selected people in a one-to-one relationship, even a brief one. The use of body language and feeling tones can be experienced as seductive, although not necessarily in a sexual sense. The same capacity also can show up in a more aggressive style that demands personal attention and recognition. TYPE 3 - THE PERFORMER Self-preservation: Security – The Company Man/Woman - With this subtype, the Three’s ability to work hard, perform well and maintain the right image are placed in the service of material success. With considerable drive and energy, this subtype can accomplish goals of financial security, a nice home, etc. The danger is losing contact with one’s real self in this effort, and becoming overly identified with one’s role at work. Social: Prestige – The Politician - The drive for success is directed toward winning social approval, knowing the right people, and achieving power in social institutions, whether in government, business or community groups. There can be genuine social leadership or simply self-aggrandizement through propaganda and image-making. One-to-One: Femininity/Masculinity – The Movie Star - The ability to create a successful image is focused on gender identity and issues. Personal power or charisma rests on being attractive as a woman or man. Yet underneath, there may be confusion about one’s real sexuality. This subtype tends to stay in the performer role, whether on stage or in personal relationships.   TYPE 4 - THE ROMANTIC Self-preservation: Dauntlessness – The Creative Individualist - This subtype is willing to jump into new situations, to pack up and move, to get going or take risks when the preservation instinct is triggered, or when an authentic life seems elsewhere. To others, these actions may seem reckless, like throwing caution to the wind, but it can work well with an unorthodox, creative or artistic style. The tension here is between wanting to acquire material security and feeling detached from it all. Social: Shame/Honor – The Critical Commentator - Feelings of deficiency can be provoked by social situations, with envy directed toward other people’s status or appearance of belonging. This subtype seeks to establish an acceptable social role, possibly as the emotional truth-teller for the group, and often feels a need to resolve the tension between the quest for individual authenticity and social expectations. One-to-One: Competitiveness – The Dramatic Person - Competition with others helps to overcome feelings of inner deficiency and create motivation for a personal agenda. This subtype takes the power or strength of others as a personal challenge, and one’s own value tends to rise and fall in comparison.   TYPE 5 - THE OBSERVER Self-preservation: Home – The Castle Defender - Home is the place wehre this subtype can retreat from the world and experience safety. This subtype is concerned about having enough supplies, which at times can lead to hoarding supplies. Or the opposite may be a true, with a lack in allegiance to any geographical location, living a nomadic life and traveling from place to place. . Social: Totem/Symbols – The Professor - This subtype has a passion for knowledge and mastery of the symbols and language of the group or society . But, this subtype can become trapped iwithin the framework of veing an observer,  with an over-emphasis on analysis and interpretation, which can get in the way of joining in or interacting with others. One-to-One: Confidentiality – The Secret Agent - This subtype will share confidences from the inner, private world in one-to-one relationships. This subtype has a kind of secretive quality and they can experience a tension between the need to connect with others and the need to guard their sense of autonomy.     TYPE 6 - THE LOYAL SKEPTIC  Self-preservation: Warmth – The Family Loyalist - this subtype navigates fear by making connectiosn and alliants with others through warmth , they do not want to be abandoned or rejected. But becuase of that,  when warmth is lacking or there isa threat to security early on in life it can create a sense of fear about takign risks and can cause a person to want to stay within secure boundaries.  Social: Duty – The Social Guardian - For this subtype, a priority is about being clear about one’s role in a group or society. To avoid rejection and overcome fear, this subtype likely wnat sto know the rules and have clarity in agreements with those they are in connection with, at work, or home. Being clear about one’s role in the group or society is an overriding concern. But with that here could also be some uncertainty about belonging. To do one’s duty can be both a blessing and a burden.   One-to-One: Strength or Beauty – The Warrior - This subtype actually has two styles: the first style can tend to overcome or avoid fear through force of will, and feats of strength , mastery, braverty, or  the ferocity of an ideological position. In the second style, insecurity and fear can be negotiated through channelling idealism and perceptivity into creating beauty. It’s important to note though that this is about creating stability and control.     TYPE 7 - THE EPICURE Self-preservation: Family – The Gourmand - This subtype likes to enjoy an abundant lifestyle within family and a circle of friends. The emphasis is on sharing good ideas and conversation, preparing elaborate meals or dining out, and planning fun projects. This subtype can have problems with over-talking, over-eating, and over-stimulation. Social: Limitation/Sacrifice – The Utopian Visionary - There is a tension here for theis subtype- they seem to need those around them to express their social idealism and intoxication with life. Giving themselves for the good of the group can feel like self sacrifice, and joining with those in the community can limit personal growth and planning for the future.    One-to-One: Suggestibility/Fascination – The Adventurer  -  This subtype can be influenced easily by the attractiveness of new ideas, people, adventures, that can get them caught up in the state of fascination. The one-to-one Seven can also influence others, and can use their charm and warmth to lead people into new paradigms, habits, relationships, ways of thinking, or activities.    TYPE 8 - THE PROTECTOR  Self-preservation: Satisfactory Survival – The Survivalist - In this subtype, the Eight’s aggressiveness and excess are channeled into physical survival and material security. In a hostile world, the self-preservation Eight will either win or go down fighting. Fiercely protective of friends and family, this subtype can establish more territory and stockpile more supplies than anyone, but in a friendly world, may miss the boat altogether. Social: Friendship/Social Causes – The Group Leader/Gang Leader - A sense of powerlessness or injustice is overcome by being part of an aligned group, usually in a leadership role. This subtype’s anger and aggression are mediated by the group’s needs, and harnessed for a common agenda. Loyalty to friends and social causes take precedence over personal feelings and needs. One-to-One: Possession/Surrender – The Commander - A one-to-one Eight uses forcefulness and self-assertion to possess (or control) a partner or significant others. At times unable to adapt or let go, a strong enough yearning to be met fully can help this subtype let go of control and turn it over to a partner.   TYPE 9 - THE MEDIATOR Self-preservation: Appetite – The Collector - This subtype excels at creating the practical infrastructure and the daily rhythms that support instinctual life. But there is a tendency to fall asleep to personal needs or narcotize oneself with food and other kinds of material consumption. (They are often collectors.) A life of material abundance and comfort can preclude efforts toward personal or spiritual growth. Social: Participation – The Community Benefactor - Blending well with the style and agenda of their friends and different social groups, this subtype can show great leadership and selfless contribution for the common good (on the high side) but tends to fall asleep to personal priorities in a comfortable social role or through indiscriminate activities (on the low side). One-to-One: Union – The Seeker - This subtype has a longing to merge, either with a partner, nature or Spirit. This can be indiscriminate or heedless at times, but also can be a doorway into a transcendent state. In daily life, this can become problematic with keeping personal boundaries and focus, since it’s so easy to be pulled outside of oneself.
September 12, 2019
It's ENNEAGRAM MADNESS. We have not one, not two, but three episodes about the Enneagram featuring one of our favorite teachers: Annie Dimond. Annie Dimond is a teacher of the Enneagram Personality and a PhD Student of Practical Theology at The University of Aberdeen in Scotland. In this episode, Annie and Mike McHargue dive deeper into the Enneagram by exploring its 27 subtypes and how it can act as a map for healing and self-acceptance. To learn more about Enneagram Subtypes visit theliturgists.com/podcast/2019/9/12/the-27-subtypes-of-the-enneagram To learn more about Annie Dimond, visit her website visit enneagramforwholeness.com For more about Ryan O'Neal and his music visit visit sleepingatlast.com This episode was sponsored by Betterhelp. Get 10% your first month of safe, private, affordable mental health counseling by visiting betterhelp.com/liturgists Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
September 12, 2019
It's ENNEAGRAM MADNESS. Today we have not one, not two, but three episodes about the Enneagram featuring one of our favorite teachers: Annie Dimond. This episode was sponsored by Betterhelp. Get 10% your first month of safe, private, affordable mental health counseling by visiting http://betterhelp.com/liturgists. Annie Dimond is a teacher of the Enneagram Personality and a PhD Student of Practical Theology at The University of Aberdeen in Scotland. In this episode, Annie and Mike McHargue dive deeper into the Enneagram by exploring its 27 subtypes and how it can act as a map for healing and self-acceptance.    To learn more about Annie Dimond, visit her website: enneagramforwholeness.com   For more about Ryan O'Neal and his music visit: sleepingatlast.com   To learn more about Enneagram Subtypes:  The Complete Enneagram: 27 Paths to Greater Self-Awareness by Beatrice Chestnut BRIEF DESCRIPTION OF CENTERS OF INTELLIGENCE AND PERCEPTION (enneagramworldwide.com)   8,9, 1 - Body or Gut Type Body-based types lead with the body for movement, sensate awareness and gut-level knowing. Their focus is on personal security, control, social belonging and taking right action. Also known as the Instinctual Center.   5,6,7 - Head Type Thinking-based, head types lead with ideas, gathering information, figuring things out and rational decision-making before acting. Their focus is on creating certainty and safety, or finding multiple options. Also known as the Intellectual Center. 2,3,4 - Heart Type Feeling-based types emphasize the heart for positive and negative feelings, empathy and concern for others, romance and devotion. Their focus is on success and relationship, performing up to expectations of the job or other people. Also known as the Emotional Center.   BRIEF DESCRIPTION OF THE SUBTYPES -  (enneagramworldwide.com)   Our evolution as human beings has required three basic survival strategies, known as the basic instincts: Self-preservation – responding to perceived threats and needs Social – creating social structures within communities One-to-one – primary relationships or coupling TYPE 2 - THE GIVER Self-preservation: Privilege – The Nurturer -  the nurturers excel in fostering warm relationships with all kinds of people, and spends a lot of attention on supporting and nurturing others. This can sometimes lead those within this subtype to feel entitled when it’s time for them to get their own needs met. They can at times have a prideful attitude about this, and a kind of false modesty, where the insistance on helping other firsts creates a kind of value.   Social: Ambition – The Ambassador - this subtype can value social approval and visible accomplishments as a way to get more self esteem. They can empathize and tune in to the needs of others to create a sense of importance, or even an indispensible role. For them, being allied with the right person in the right way, is more important than being at the centre of it all.  One-to-One: Seduction/Aggression – The Lover - this subtype uses warmth and attunement to others to make connections or deepn relationships and win the approval of a specific someone, even if just for a time. They can appear seductive in their body language and verbal tone, although not necessarily sexually so. At times this can appear as aggressive with demands for personal attention and affirmation.    TYPE 3 - THE PERFORMER Self-preservation: Security – The Company Man/Woman - With this subtype, a person’s ability to work hard, and perform at a high level an create a good image can be used to create material success. With all their commitment and energy, they can accomplish all sorts of things, including creating financial security, getting all the nice things, etc. but the risk is losing touch with who they really are in the process of it all, and becoming too identifiied with work.  Social: Prestige – The Politician - for this subtype the drive for achievement is geared towards winning social approval, and knowing the right people, getting the right kind of power in the right system or institution. This could be a kind of genuine social leadership, or more about self-aggrandizement through image curation. One-to-One: Femininity/Masculinity – The Movie Star - The ability to create the right image is about focusing on performing the gendered ideal. For example, they may try to create personal power by being attractive as a woman or man. But underneath it all their might be some confusion about their identity. People with this type tend to be more of a performer,  whether on stage, or in their day to day lives.    TYPE 4 - THE ROMANTIC Self-preservation: Dauntlessness – The Creative Individualist - people in this subtype tend to be willing to jump into new situations, get up and go, taks risks, or to take off when their preservation instinct gets activated, or when authenticity or an authentic life seems to be anywhere but here. To other poeple, they might seem reckless, careless, or without any caution, but this works well with a creative, artistic, or expressive lifestyle. For this type, they might have a tension between wanting to aquire material goods, and feeling disconnected from it all.  Social: Shame/Honor – The Critical Commentator - for people with this type, they may feel deficient based on what is happening in social situations, and can feel envious of others poeple with more social status, or who seem to belong. They likely want to establish an acceptable social role , possibly the one who is the truth teller about emotional content, and feels the need to resolve tension between the dsire to live authentically, and what is expected of them socially.  One-to-One: Competitiveness – The Dramatic Person - this subtype uses competition with others to overcome a sense of deficiency internally,  and create the drive to complete a personal agenda. They may see the power and strenghts of others as a challenge, and judge their own value, either the increase or decrease of their sense of their own worth, based on  comparison to others.    TYPE 8 - THE PROTECTOR  Self-preservation: Satisfactory Survival – The Survivalist - In this subtype, the Eight’s aggressiveness and excess are channeled into physical survival and material security. In a hostile world, the self-preservation Eight will either win or go down fighting. Fiercely protective of friends and family, this subtype can establish more territory and stockpile more supplies than anyone, but in a friendly world, may miss the boat altogether. Social: Friendship/Social Causes – The Group Leader/Gang Leader - A sense of powerlessness or injustice is overcome by being part of an aligned group, usually in a leadership role. This subtype’s anger and aggression are mediated by the group’s needs, and harnessed for a common agenda. Loyalty to friends and social causes take precedence over personal feelings and needs. One-to-One: Possession/Surrender – The Commander - A one-to-one Eight uses forcefulness and self-assertion to possess (or control) a partner or significant others. At times unable to adapt or let go, a strong enough yearning to be met fully can help this subtype let go of control and turn it over to a partner.   TYPE 9 - THE MEDIATOR Self-preservation: Appetite – The Collector - This subtype excels at creating the practical infrastructure and the daily rhythms that support instinctual life. But there is a tendency to fall asleep to personal needs or narcotize oneself with food and other kinds of material consumption. (They are often collectors.) A life of material abundance and comfort can preclude efforts toward personal or spiritual growth. Social: Participation – The Community Benefactor - Blending well with the style and priorities of their friends and different social networks, this subtype has the ability to be both a leader and a selfless supporter for the common good but can be numb to their personal priorities when in a comfortable social role  One-to-One: Union – The Seeker - This subtype has a longing to merge, either with a partner, nature or Spirit. This can be indiscriminate or heedless at times, but also can be a doorway into a transcendent state. In daily life, this can become problematic with keeping personal boundaries and focus, since it’s so easy to be pulled outside of oneself.   TYPE 1 - THE PERFECTIONIST  Self-preservation: Anxiety – The Pioneer - This subtype can be anxious or self controlled, but there is a focus on concerns about survival and security that get channeled into success. The focus here tends to be on being a good person, doing the right thing. This can be done by having control over nature, and imposing order. With this subtype, family life and the home, food prep, all the day to day things can take precedence over other needs. For these subtypes, too much self sacrifice can lead to tension in the body and resentment. Social: Inadaptability – The Social Reformer - Comfortable with a secure social role and a clear set of rules, this subtype is usually quite friendly and gregarious on one’s own turf. But an emphasis on doing things the right way can make it hard to adapt to new situations, and also can generate resentment or criticism toward others who may be acting “incorrectly.” One-to-One: Jealousy/Zealousness – The Evangelist - With clear rules and standards for correct behavior, this subtype keeps a highly charged instinctual center under strict self-control, leading at times to over zealousness in everything. Keeping a partner’s attention is vital to avoid self-recrimination. Jealousy toward a partner is common, and also may be experienced toward others who seem to have more room for self-expression. TYPE 2 - THE GIVER Self-preservation: Privilege – The Nurturer - Excelling in creating warm, personable relationships with many kinds of people, this subtype spends much attention on supporting and nurturing others, which can lead to a feeling of entitlement when it comes to getting one’s own needs met. This can contribute to a prideful attitude, or an insistence on going last that supports another kind of specialness, as in false modesty. Social: Ambition – The Ambassador - Gaining self-esteem through both social approval and visible accomplishments, this subtype empathizes and attunes to other’s needs to create an important, even indispensable role within an organization or cause. Being allied with the right people is usually more important than taking center stage. One-to-One: Seduction/Aggression – The Lover - This subtype uses all of the Two’s capacity for interpersonal attunement to make a connection and win the approval of selected people in a one-to-one relationship, even a brief one. The use of body language and feeling tones can be experienced as seductive, although not necessarily in a sexual sense. The same capacity also can show up in a more aggressive style that demands personal attention and recognition. TYPE 3 - THE PERFORMER Self-preservation: Security – The Company Man/Woman - With this subtype, the Three’s ability to work hard, perform well and maintain the right image are placed in the service of material success. With considerable drive and energy, this subtype can accomplish goals of financial security, a nice home, etc. The danger is losing contact with one’s real self in this effort, and becoming overly identified with one’s role at work. Social: Prestige – The Politician - The drive for success is directed toward winning social approval, knowing the right people, and achieving power in social institutions, whether in government, business or community groups. There can be genuine social leadership or simply self-aggrandizement through propaganda and image-making. One-to-One: Femininity/Masculinity – The Movie Star - The ability to create a successful image is focused on gender identity and issues. Personal power or charisma rests on being attractive as a woman or man. Yet underneath, there may be confusion about one’s real sexuality. This subtype tends to stay in the performer role, whether on stage or in personal relationships.   TYPE 4 - THE ROMANTIC Self-preservation: Dauntlessness – The Creative Individualist - This subtype is willing to jump into new situations, to pack up and move, to get going or take risks when the preservation instinct is triggered, or when an authentic life seems elsewhere. To others, these actions may seem reckless, like throwing caution to the wind, but it can work well with an unorthodox, creative or artistic style. The tension here is between wanting to acquire material security and feeling detached from it all. Social: Shame/Honor – The Critical Commentator - Feelings of deficiency can be provoked by social situations, with envy directed toward other people’s status or appearance of belonging. This subtype seeks to establish an acceptable social role, possibly as the emotional truth-teller for the group, and often feels a need to resolve the tension between the quest for individual authenticity and social expectations. One-to-One: Competitiveness – The Dramatic Person - Competition with others helps to overcome feelings of inner deficiency and create motivation for a personal agenda. This subtype takes the power or strength of others as a personal challenge, and one’s own value tends to rise and fall in comparison.   TYPE 5 - THE OBSERVER Self-preservation: Home – The Castle Defender - Home is the place wehre this subtype can retreat from the world and experience safety. This subtype is concerned about having enough supplies, which at times can lead to hoarding supplies. Or the opposite may be a true, with a lack in allegiance to any geographical location, living a nomadic life and traveling from place to place. . Social: Totem/Symbols – The Professor - This subtype has a passion for knowledge and mastery of the symbols and language of the group or society . But, this subtype can become trapped iwithin the framework of veing an observer,  with an over-emphasis on analysis and interpretation, which can get in the way of joining in or interacting with others. One-to-One: Confidentiality – The Secret Agent - This subtype will share confidences from the inner, private world in one-to-one relationships. This subtype has a kind of secretive quality and they can experience a tension between the need to connect with others and the need to guard their sense of autonomy.     TYPE 6 - THE LOYAL SKEPTIC  Self-preservation: Warmth – The Family Loyalist - this subtype navigates fear by making connectiosn and alliants with others through warmth , they do not want to be abandoned or rejected. But becuase of that,  when warmth is lacking or there isa threat to security early on in life it can create a sense of fear about takign risks and can cause a person to want to stay within secure boundaries.  Social: Duty – The Social Guardian - For this subtype, a priority is about being clear about one’s role in a group or society. To avoid rejection and overcome fear, this subtype likely wnat sto know the rules and have clarity in agreements with those they are in connection with, at work, or home. Being clear about one’s role in the group or society is an overriding concern. But with that here could also be some uncertainty about belonging. To do one’s duty can be both a blessing and a burden.   One-to-One: Strength or Beauty – The Warrior - This subtype actually has two styles: the first style can tend to overcome or avoid fear through force of will, and feats of strength , mastery, braverty, or  the ferocity of an ideological position. In the second style, insecurity and fear can be negotiated through channelling idealism and perceptivity into creating beauty. It’s important to note though that this is about creating stability and control.     TYPE 7 - THE EPICURE Self-preservation: Family – The Gourmand - This subtype likes to enjoy an abundant lifestyle within family and a circle of friends. The emphasis is on sharing good ideas and conversation, preparing elaborate meals or dining out, and planning fun projects. This subtype can have problems with over-talking, over-eating, and over-stimulation. Social: Limitation/Sacrifice – The Utopian Visionary - There is a tension here for theis subtype- they seem to need those around them to express their social idealism and intoxication with life. Giving themselves for the good of the group can feel like self sacrifice, and joining with those in the community can limit personal growth and planning for the future.    One-to-One: Suggestibility/Fascination – The Adventurer  -  This subtype can be influenced easily by the attractiveness of new ideas, people, adventures, that can get them caught up in the state of fascination. The one-to-one Seven can also influence others, and can use their charm and warmth to lead people into new paradigms, habits, relationships, ways of thinking, or activities.    TYPE 8 - THE PROTECTOR  Self-preservation: Satisfactory Survival – The Survivalist - In this subtype, the Eight’s aggressiveness and excess are channeled into physical survival and material security. In a hostile world, the self-preservation Eight will either win or go down fighting. Fiercely protective of friends and family, this subtype can establish more territory and stockpile more supplies than anyone, but in a friendly world, may miss the boat altogether. Social: Friendship/Social Causes – The Group Leader/Gang Leader - A sense of powerlessness or injustice is overcome by being part of an aligned group, usually in a leadership role. This subtype’s anger and aggression are mediated by the group’s needs, and harnessed for a common agenda. Loyalty to friends and social causes take precedence over personal feelings and needs. One-to-One: Possession/Surrender – The Commander - A one-to-one Eight uses forcefulness and self-assertion to possess (or control) a partner or significant others. At times unable to adapt or let go, a strong enough yearning to be met fully can help this subtype let go of control and turn it over to a partner.   TYPE 9 - THE MEDIATOR Self-preservation: Appetite – The Collector - This subtype excels at creating the practical infrastructure and the daily rhythms that support instinctual life. But there is a tendency to fall asleep to personal needs or narcotize oneself with food and other kinds of material consumption. (They are often collectors.) A life of material abundance and comfort can preclude efforts toward personal or spiritual growth. Social: Participation – The Community Benefactor - Blending well with the style and agenda of their friends and different social groups, this subtype can show great leadership and selfless contribution for the common good (on the high side) but tends to fall asleep to personal priorities in a comfortable social role or through indiscriminate activities (on the low side). One-to-One: Union – The Seeker - This subtype has a longing to merge, either with a partner, nature or Spirit. This can be indiscriminate or heedless at times, but also can be a doorway into a transcendent state. In daily life, this can become problematic with keeping personal boundaries and focus, since it’s so easy to be pulled outside of oneself.
September 12, 2019
It's ENNEAGRAM MADNESS. We have not one, not two, but three episodes about the Enneagram featuring one of our favorite teachers: Annie Dimond. Annie Dimond is a teacher of the Enneagram Personality and a PhD Student of Practical Theology at The University of Aberdeen in Scotland. In this episode, Annie and Mike McHargue dive deeper into the Enneagram by exploring its 27 subtypes and how it can act as a map for healing and self-acceptance. To learn more about Enneagram Subtypes visit theliturgists.com/podcast/2019/9/12/the-27-subtypes-of-the-enneagram To learn more about Annie Dimond, visit her website visit enneagramforwholeness.com For more about Ryan O'Neal and his music visit visit sleepingatlast.com This episode was sponsored by Betterhelp. Get 10% your first month of safe, private, affordable mental health counseling by visiting betterhelp.com/liturgists Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
September 12, 2019
It's ENNEAGRAM MADNESS. Today we have not one, not two, but three episodes about the Enneagram featuring one of our favorite teachers: Annie Dimond. This episode was sponsored by Betterhelp. Get 10% your first month of safe, private, affordable mental health counseling by visiting http://betterhelp.com/liturgists. Annie Dimond is a teacher of the Enneagram Personality and a PhD Student of Practical Theology at The University of Aberdeen in Scotland. In this episode, Annie and Mike McHargue dive deeper into the Enneagram by exploring its 27 subtypes and how it can act as a map for healing and self-acceptance.    To learn more about Annie Dimond, visit her website: enneagramforwholeness.com   For more about Ryan O'Neal and his music visit: sleepingatlast.com   To learn more about Enneagram Subtypes:  The Complete Enneagram: 27 Paths to Greater Self-Awareness by Beatrice Chestnut BRIEF DESCRIPTION OF CENTERS OF INTELLIGENCE AND PERCEPTION (enneagramworldwide.com)   8,9, 1 - Body or Gut Type Body-based types lead with the body for movement, sensate awareness and gut-level knowing. Their focus is on personal security, control, social belonging and taking right action. Also known as the Instinctual Center.   5,6,7 - Head Type Thinking-based, head types lead with ideas, gathering information, figuring things out and rational decision-making before acting. Their focus is on creating certainty and safety, or finding multiple options. Also known as the Intellectual Center. 2,3,4 - Heart Type Feeling-based types emphasize the heart for positive and negative feelings, empathy and concern for others, romance and devotion. Their focus is on success and relationship, performing up to expectations of the job or other people. Also known as the Emotional Center.   BRIEF DESCRIPTION OF THE SUBTYPES -  (enneagramworldwide.com)   Our evolution as human beings has required three basic survival strategies, known as the basic instincts: Self-preservation – responding to perceived threats and needs Social – creating social structures within communities One-to-one – primary relationships or coupling TYPE 2 - THE GIVER Self-preservation: Privilege – The Nurturer -  the nurturers excel in fostering warm relationships with all kinds of people, and spends a lot of attention on supporting and nurturing others. This can sometimes lead those within this subtype to feel entitled when it’s time for them to get their own needs met. They can at times have a prideful attitude about this, and a kind of false modesty, where the insistance on helping other firsts creates a kind of value.   Social: Ambition – The Ambassador - this subtype can value social approval and visible accomplishments as a way to get more self esteem. They can empathize and tune in to the needs of others to create a sense of importance, or even an indispensible role. For them, being allied with the right person in the right way, is more important than being at the centre of it all.  One-to-One: Seduction/Aggression – The Lover - this subtype uses warmth and attunement to others to make connections or deepn relationships and win the approval of a specific someone, even if just for a time. They can appear seductive in their body language and verbal tone, although not necessarily sexually so. At times this can appear as aggressive with demands for personal attention and affirmation.    TYPE 3 - THE PERFORMER Self-preservation: Security – The Company Man/Woman - With this subtype, a person’s ability to work hard, and perform at a high level an create a good image can be used to create material success. With all their commitment and energy, they can accomplish all sorts of things, including creating financial security, getting all the nice things, etc. but the risk is losing touch with who they really are in the process of it all, and becoming too identifiied with work.  Social: Prestige – The Politician - for this subtype the drive for achievement is geared towards winning social approval, and knowing the right people, getting the right kind of power in the right system or institution. This could be a kind of genuine social leadership, or more about self-aggrandizement through image curation. One-to-One: Femininity/Masculinity – The Movie Star - The ability to create the right image is about focusing on performing the gendered ideal. For example, they may try to create personal power by being attractive as a woman or man. But underneath it all their might be some confusion about their identity. People with this type tend to be more of a performer,  whether on stage, or in their day to day lives.    TYPE 4 - THE ROMANTIC Self-preservation: Dauntlessness – The Creative Individualist - people in this subtype tend to be willing to jump into new situations, get up and go, taks risks, or to take off when their preservation instinct gets activated, or when authenticity or an authentic life seems to be anywhere but here. To other poeple, they might seem reckless, careless, or without any caution, but this works well with a creative, artistic, or expressive lifestyle. For this type, they might have a tension between wanting to aquire material goods, and feeling disconnected from it all.  Social: Shame/Honor – The Critical Commentator - for people with this type, they may feel deficient based on what is happening in social situations, and can feel envious of others poeple with more social status, or who seem to belong. They likely want to establish an acceptable social role , possibly the one who is the truth teller about emotional content, and feels the need to resolve tension between the dsire to live authentically, and what is expected of them socially.  One-to-One: Competitiveness – The Dramatic Person - this subtype uses competition with others to overcome a sense of deficiency internally,  and create the drive to complete a personal agenda. They may see the power and strenghts of others as a challenge, and judge their own value, either the increase or decrease of their sense of their own worth, based on  comparison to others.    TYPE 8 - THE PROTECTOR  Self-preservation: Satisfactory Survival – The Survivalist - In this subtype, the Eight’s aggressiveness and excess are channeled into physical survival and material security. In a hostile world, the self-preservation Eight will either win or go down fighting. Fiercely protective of friends and family, this subtype can establish more territory and stockpile more supplies than anyone, but in a friendly world, may miss the boat altogether. Social: Friendship/Social Causes – The Group Leader/Gang Leader - A sense of powerlessness or injustice is overcome by being part of an aligned group, usually in a leadership role. This subtype’s anger and aggression are mediated by the group’s needs, and harnessed for a common agenda. Loyalty to friends and social causes take precedence over personal feelings and needs. One-to-One: Possession/Surrender – The Commander - A one-to-one Eight uses forcefulness and self-assertion to possess (or control) a partner or significant others. At times unable to adapt or let go, a strong enough yearning to be met fully can help this subtype let go of control and turn it over to a partner.   TYPE 9 - THE MEDIATOR Self-preservation: Appetite – The Collector - This subtype excels at creating the practical infrastructure and the daily rhythms that support instinctual life. But there is a tendency to fall asleep to personal needs or narcotize oneself with food and other kinds of material consumption. (They are often collectors.) A life of material abundance and comfort can preclude efforts toward personal or spiritual growth. Social: Participation – The Community Benefactor - Blending well with the style and priorities of their friends and different social networks, this subtype has the ability to be both a leader and a selfless supporter for the common good but can be numb to their personal priorities when in a comfortable social role  One-to-One: Union – The Seeker - This subtype has a longing to merge, either with a partner, nature or Spirit. This can be indiscriminate or heedless at times, but also can be a doorway into a transcendent state. In daily life, this can become problematic with keeping personal boundaries and focus, since it’s so easy to be pulled outside of oneself.   TYPE 1 - THE PERFECTIONIST  Self-preservation: Anxiety – The Pioneer - This subtype can be anxious or self controlled, but there is a focus on concerns about survival and security that get channeled into success. The focus here tends to be on being a good person, doing the right thing. This can be done by having control over nature, and imposing order. With this subtype, family life and the home, food prep, all the day to day things can take precedence over other needs. For these subtypes, too much self sacrifice can lead to tension in the body and resentment. Social: Inadaptability – The Social Reformer - Comfortable with a secure social role and a clear set of rules, this subtype is usually quite friendly and gregarious on one’s own turf. But an emphasis on doing things the right way can make it hard to adapt to new situations, and also can generate resentment or criticism toward others who may be acting “incorrectly.” One-to-One: Jealousy/Zealousness – The Evangelist - With clear rules and standards for correct behavior, this subtype keeps a highly charged instinctual center under strict self-control, leading at times to over zealousness in everything. Keeping a partner’s attention is vital to avoid self-recrimination. Jealousy toward a partner is common, and also may be experienced toward others who seem to have more room for self-expression. TYPE 2 - THE GIVER Self-preservation: Privilege – The Nurturer - Excelling in creating warm, personable relationships with many kinds of people, this subtype spends much attention on supporting and nurturing others, which can lead to a feeling of entitlement when it comes to getting one’s own needs met. This can contribute to a prideful attitude, or an insistence on going last that supports another kind of specialness, as in false modesty. Social: Ambition – The Ambassador - Gaining self-esteem through both social approval and visible accomplishments, this subtype empathizes and attunes to other’s needs to create an important, even indispensable role within an organization or cause. Being allied with the right people is usually more important than taking center stage. One-to-One: Seduction/Aggression – The Lover - This subtype uses all of the Two’s capacity for interpersonal attunement to make a connection and win the approval of selected people in a one-to-one relationship, even a brief one. The use of body language and feeling tones can be experienced as seductive, although not necessarily in a sexual sense. The same capacity also can show up in a more aggressive style that demands personal attention and recognition. TYPE 3 - THE PERFORMER Self-preservation: Security – The Company Man/Woman - With this subtype, the Three’s ability to work hard, perform well and maintain the right image are placed in the service of material success. With considerable drive and energy, this subtype can accomplish goals of financial security, a nice home, etc. The danger is losing contact with one’s real self in this effort, and becoming overly identified with one’s role at work. Social: Prestige – The Politician - The drive for success is directed toward winning social approval, knowing the right people, and achieving power in social institutions, whether in government, business or community groups. There can be genuine social leadership or simply self-aggrandizement through propaganda and image-making. One-to-One: Femininity/Masculinity – The Movie Star - The ability to create a successful image is focused on gender identity and issues. Personal power or charisma rests on being attractive as a woman or man. Yet underneath, there may be confusion about one’s real sexuality. This subtype tends to stay in the performer role, whether on stage or in personal relationships.   TYPE 4 - THE ROMANTIC Self-preservation: Dauntlessness – The Creative Individualist - This subtype is willing to jump into new situations, to pack up and move, to get going or take risks when the preservation instinct is triggered, or when an authentic life seems elsewhere. To others, these actions may seem reckless, like throwing caution to the wind, but it can work well with an unorthodox, creative or artistic style. The tension here is between wanting to acquire material security and feeling detached from it all. Social: Shame/Honor – The Critical Commentator - Feelings of deficiency can be provoked by social situations, with envy directed toward other people’s status or appearance of belonging. This subtype seeks to establish an acceptable social role, possibly as the emotional truth-teller for the group, and often feels a need to resolve the tension between the quest for individual authenticity and social expectations. One-to-One: Competitiveness – The Dramatic Person - Competition with others helps to overcome feelings of inner deficiency and create motivation for a personal agenda. This subtype takes the power or strength of others as a personal challenge, and one’s own value tends to rise and fall in comparison.   TYPE 5 - THE OBSERVER Self-preservation: Home – The Castle Defender - Home is the place wehre this subtype can retreat from the world and experience safety. This subtype is concerned about having enough supplies, which at times can lead to hoarding supplies. Or the opposite may be a true, with a lack in allegiance to any geographical location, living a nomadic life and traveling from place to place. . Social: Totem/Symbols – The Professor - This subtype has a passion for knowledge and mastery of the symbols and language of the group or society . But, this subtype can become trapped iwithin the framework of veing an observer,  with an over-emphasis on analysis and interpretation, which can get in the way of joining in or interacting with others. One-to-One: Confidentiality – The Secret Agent - This subtype will share confidences from the inner, private world in one-to-one relationships. This subtype has a kind of secretive quality and they can experience a tension between the need to connect with others and the need to guard their sense of autonomy.     TYPE 6 - THE LOYAL SKEPTIC  Self-preservation: Warmth – The Family Loyalist - this subtype navigates fear by making connectiosn and alliants with others through warmth , they do not want to be abandoned or rejected. But becuase of that,  when warmth is lacking or there isa threat to security early on in life it can create a sense of fear about takign risks and can cause a person to want to stay within secure boundaries.  Social: Duty – The Social Guardian - For this subtype, a priority is about being clear about one’s role in a group or society. To avoid rejection and overcome fear, this subtype likely wnat sto know the rules and have clarity in agreements with those they are in connection with, at work, or home. Being clear about one’s role in the group or society is an overriding concern. But with that here could also be some uncertainty about belonging. To do one’s duty can be both a blessing and a burden.   One-to-One: Strength or Beauty – The Warrior - This subtype actually has two styles: the first style can tend to overcome or avoid fear through force of will, and feats of strength , mastery, braverty, or  the ferocity of an ideological position. In the second style, insecurity and fear can be negotiated through channelling idealism and perceptivity into creating beauty. It’s important to note though that this is about creating stability and control.     TYPE 7 - THE EPICURE Self-preservation: Family – The Gourmand - This subtype likes to enjoy an abundant lifestyle within family and a circle of friends. The emphasis is on sharing good ideas and conversation, preparing elaborate meals or dining out, and planning fun projects. This subtype can have problems with over-talking, over-eating, and over-stimulation. Social: Limitation/Sacrifice – The Utopian Visionary - There is a tension here for theis subtype- they seem to need those around them to express their social idealism and intoxication with life. Giving themselves for the good of the group can feel like self sacrifice, and joining with those in the community can limit personal growth and planning for the future.    One-to-One: Suggestibility/Fascination – The Adventurer  -  This subtype can be influenced easily by the attractiveness of new ideas, people, adventures, that can get them caught up in the state of fascination. The one-to-one Seven can also influence others, and can use their charm and warmth to lead people into new paradigms, habits, relationships, ways of thinking, or activities.    TYPE 8 - THE PROTECTOR  Self-preservation: Satisfactory Survival – The Survivalist - In this subtype, the Eight’s aggressiveness and excess are channeled into physical survival and material security. In a hostile world, the self-preservation Eight will either win or go down fighting. Fiercely protective of friends and family, this subtype can establish more territory and stockpile more supplies than anyone, but in a friendly world, may miss the boat altogether. Social: Friendship/Social Causes – The Group Leader/Gang Leader - A sense of powerlessness or injustice is overcome by being part of an aligned group, usually in a leadership role. This subtype’s anger and aggression are mediated by the group’s needs, and harnessed for a common agenda. Loyalty to friends and social causes take precedence over personal feelings and needs. One-to-One: Possession/Surrender – The Commander - A one-to-one Eight uses forcefulness and self-assertion to possess (or control) a partner or significant others. At times unable to adapt or let go, a strong enough yearning to be met fully can help this subtype let go of control and turn it over to a partner.   TYPE 9 - THE MEDIATOR Self-preservation: Appetite – The Collector - This subtype excels at creating the practical infrastructure and the daily rhythms that support instinctual life. But there is a tendency to fall asleep to personal needs or narcotize oneself with food and other kinds of material consumption. (They are often collectors.) A life of material abundance and comfort can preclude efforts toward personal or spiritual growth. Social: Participation – The Community Benefactor - Blending well with the style and agenda of their friends and different social groups, this subtype can show great leadership and selfless contribution for the common good (on the high side) but tends to fall asleep to personal priorities in a comfortable social role or through indiscriminate activities (on the low side). One-to-One: Union – The Seeker - This subtype has a longing to merge, either with a partner, nature or Spirit. This can be indiscriminate or heedless at times, but also can be a doorway into a transcendent state. In daily life, this can become problematic with keeping personal boundaries and focus, since it’s so easy to be pulled outside of oneself.
September 12, 2019
It's ENNEAGRAM MADNESS. We have not one, not two, but three episodes about the Enneagram featuring one of our favorite teachers: Annie Dimond. Annie Dimond is a teacher of the Enneagram Personality and a PhD Student of Practical Theology at The University of Aberdeen in Scotland. In this episode, Annie and Mike McHargue dive deeper into the Enneagram by exploring its 27 subtypes and how it can act as a map for healing and self-acceptance. To learn more about Enneagram Subtypes visit theliturgists.com/podcast/2019/9/12/the-27-subtypes-of-the-enneagram To learn more about Annie Dimond, visit her website visit enneagramforwholeness.com For more about Ryan O'Neal and his music visit visit sleepingatlast.com This episode was sponsored by Betterhelp. Get 10% your first month of safe, private, affordable mental health counseling by visiting betterhelp.com/liturgists Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
September 5, 2019
This is an episode of our other podcast, The Alien & The Robot. It's a show for our Patrons, but this episode has some announcements about new stuff coming to Patreon PLUS we found a way to describe the "mission" of The Liturgists out loud for the first time ever. Not bad for a show that started in 2014.
September 5, 2019
This is an episode of our other podcast, The Alien & The Robot. It's a show for our Patrons, but this episode has some announcements about new stuff coming to Patreon PLUS we found a way to describe the "mission" of The Liturgists out loud for the first time ever. Not bad for a show that started in 2014.
August 22, 2019
Hillary McBride speaks with Audrey Assad about how fundamental religious cultures can foster, and even sometimes reward mental illnesses. In this episode Audrey shares about her experience battling Scrupulosity, or Religious OCD.
August 8, 2019
Michael Gungor sits down with Jamie Lee Finch to talk about embodiment, sexuality, and religious trauma. Jamie is a sexuality and embodiment coach, author, and poet. Michael Gungor and Science Mike are on tour. Click here to see if they're coming to a city near you.
July 25, 2019
Science Mike, Michael Gungor, William Matthews, and Hillary McBride discuss the modern epidemic of loneliness, and how to respond to it in an episode recorded in front of a live audience at the Wild Goose Festival 2019. We've got HUGE NEWS about our Tabs & Wafers tour: We're offering FREE TICKETS in all remaining cities in order to make our events more economically accessible. Plus, we're finally telling you the event actually is. You can learn more here. See you soon, Minneapolis, Chicago, Los Angeles, Tempe, San Francisco, Dallas, Houston, and Austin.
July 11, 2019
This episode is about prayer. What is prayer? What value, if any,  does prayer have for people who don't believe in a theistic God anymore? Science Mike and Michael Gungor are on tour and headed to a city near you.
June 20, 2019
Alabama recently approved a measure that would outlaw almost all abortions in the state, setting up a challenge to Roe v. Wade, the case that recognized a woman's constitutional right to end a pregnancy. Few issues are more divisive than abortion. Few topics push on our most fundamental ideas about life, personhood, and morality. Back in 2015, Rachel Held Evans, Science Mike, and Michael Gungor take a look a simple, controversial question: Are you pro-life or pro-choice? For more information on Rachel Held Evans’ work, and to learn how to support her family following her tragic passing, visit rachelheldevans.com You can get a free copy of one of Rachel’s audiobooks on Audible by signing up for a free trial Here.
May 21, 2019
In celebration of our 100th episode, we take a look at where the podcast has been while looking forward to what's next. Thank you to all of you who've listened and contributed over the years. Michael Gungor and Science Mike are going on tour in an event called Tabs & Wafers. Learn more.
May 2, 2019
In this episode, Michael Gungor asks leading theologians, scholars, teachers two questions: “Does God exist,” and “Who or what is God?”Guests on this episode include, Richard Rohr, Diana Butler Bass, Amy-Jill Levine, Sharon Salzberg, Reza Aslan, Science Mike, William Matthews, and Hillary McBride. Fr. Richard Rohr is a globally recognized ecumenical teacher bearing witness to the universal awakening within Christian mysticism and the Perennial Tradition. He is a Franciscan priest of the New Mexico Province and founder of the Center for Action and Contemplation (CAC) in Albuquerque, New Mexico. Fr. Richard’s teaching is grounded in the Franciscan alternative orthodoxy—practices of contemplation and self-emptying, expressing itself in radical compassion, particularly for the socially marginalized. Diana Butler Bass is an author, speaker, and independent scholar specializing in American religion and culture. She holds a Ph.D. in religious studies from Duke University and is the award-winning author of ten books, including Grounded: Finding God in the World —A Spiritual Revolution, Christianity After Religion: The End of Church and the Birth of a New Spiritual Awakening,  Christianity for the Rest of Us: How the Neighborhood Church is Transforming the Faith, and Grateful: The Transformative Power of Giving Thanks. Amy-Jill Levine is University Professor of New Testament and Jewish Studies, Mary Jane Werthan Professor of Jewish Studies, and Professor of New Testament Studies at Vanderbilt Divinity School and College of Arts and Science; she is also Affiliated Professor, Centre for the Study of Jewish-Christian Relations, Cambridge UK.   Her books include The Misunderstood Jew: The Church and the Scandal of the Jewish Jesus; The Meaning of the Bible: What the Jewish Scriptures and the Christian Old Testament Can Teach Us (co-authored with Douglas Knight); The New Testament, Methods and Meanings (co-authored with Warren Carter), and the thirteen-volume edited Feminist Companions to the New Testament and Early Christian Writing.  Her most recent volume is Short Stories by Jesus: The Enigmatic Parables of a Controversial Rabbi. She has also just written, with noted children’s book author Sandy Eisenberg Sasso, Who Counts? 100 Sheep, Ten Coins, and Two Sons (a volume on the parables of Luke 15, designed for children). Dr. Levine is also the co-editor, with Marc Z. Brettler, of the Jewish Annotated New Testament, now in a second edition.   Holding the B.A. from Smith College, and the M.A. and Ph.D. from Duke University, she has honorary doctorates from the University of Richmond, the Episcopal Theological Seminary of the Southwest, the University of South Carolina-Upstate, Drury University, Christian Theological Seminary, and Franklin College. A self-described Yankee Jewish feminist, Professor Levine is a member of Congregation Sherith Israel, an Orthodox Synagogue in Nashville, although she is often quite unorthodox. Sharon Salzberg is a central figure in the field of meditation, a world-renowned teacher and NY Times bestselling author. She has played a crucial role in bringing meditation and mindfulness practices to the West and into mainstream culture since 1974, when she first began teaching. She is the co-founder of the Insight Meditation Society in Barre, MA and the author of ten books including NY Times bestseller, Real Happiness, her seminal work, Lovingkindness and her forthcoming release by Flatiron Books, Real Love. Renowned for her down-to-earth teaching style, Sharon offers a secular, modern approach to Buddhist teachings, making them instantly accessible. She is a regular columnist for On Being, a contributor to Huffington Post, and the host of her own podcast: The Metta Hour. Reza Aslan is an internationally renowned writer, commentator, professor, producer, and scholar of religions. His books, including his #1 New York Times Bestseller, Zealot: The Life and Times of Jesus of Nazareth, have been translated into dozens of languages around the world. He is also a recipient of the prestigious James Joyce Award.
April 16, 2019
Science Mike, William Matthews, and Hillary McBride talk with Michael Gungor about his newest book, THIS. As Michael shares, letting go of the stories that defined his identity and value in the world led him and his family on a wild and painful journey through atheism, mysticism, betrayal, loss, medical issues, moving trucks, and thousands of online trolls. The deconstruction of his faith is one story. The transformation of it is another. As Michael lets us know, our stories are the seams of illusion that we sew into reality―in order to label this and that. But what you think of as you (or anything else for that matter) is simply movement within the ocean of Being―of THIS. Once you see that is it just a story, you can let go and be free. You can get your copy of THIS on Amazon.com or, if you prefer audio books,  you can get THIS for free by signing up for an Audible trial using our affiliate link.
April 4, 2019
Hillary McBride and Science Mike talk about learning to cope with change, growth, and intimacy.Want to see Michael Gungor and Science Mike this May? Tickets for their summer tour are on sale now.
March 24, 2019
Hillary McBride, William Matthews, Science Mike, and Michael Gungor talk with Richard Rohr about The Universal Christ--Fr. Rohr’s latest book. You can learn more about the book here. You can get the audiobook for The Universal Christ for free using our Audible affiliate link. Learn more here.
March 7, 2019
We’re discussing fear in an episode that was recorded live at The Liturgists Gathering in Nashville, TN. Special thanks to Jamie Lee Finch for joining us. We’re going on tour! Join Science Mike and Michael Gungor for Tabs & Wafers. Tickets are on sale now--visit our events page for more information.
February 22, 2019
This week we're talking with Sharon Salzberg. Sharon is a central figure in the field of meditation, a world-renowned teacher and NY Times bestselling author. She has played a crucial role in bringing meditation and mindfulness practices to the West and into mainstream culture since 1974, when she first began teaching. She is the co-founder of the Insight Meditation Society in Barre, MA and the author of ten books including NY Times bestseller, Real Happiness, her seminal work, Lovingkindness and her forthcoming release by Flatiron Books, Real Love. Renowned for her down-to-earth teaching style, Sharon offers a secular, modern approach to Buddhist teachings, making them instantly accessible. She is a regular columnist for On Being, a contributor to Huffington Post, and the host of her own podcast: The Metta Hour. For more information, visit www.SharonSalzberg.com. We've got a handful of tickets left for our next kin retreat. If you're a man interested in confronting harmful cultural scripts around masculinity, we'd love for you to join us in Ojai this May.
February 7, 2019
We're talking with Bushi Yamato Damashii this week to kick off a new series on Buddhism. Bushi is a Buddhist monk and lead resident teacher at Daishin Zen Buddhist Temple in Thomasville, North Carolina. Bushi is also the Vice-president and Zen monk at Still Water Farms Retreat Center in Franklinville, NC. A former Christian minister and pastor, Bushi now speaks of much deeper understanding of the love and compassion of the Historical Jesus and the Historical Buddha. Bushi is classically trained in Mahayana Buddhism and Daishin Zen.
January 31, 2019
We've got another podcast called The Alien & The Robot that's available exclusively to our Patrons. But, as we work on Season 5, we've got some big news to share on multiple fronts. So, please enjoy a "behind the scenes" look at what The Liturgists are up to. Here's some links you may want: End of the World Tour  The Liturgists NEW SOCIAL PLATFORM
January 25, 2019
Propaganda, the Brilliance, and Gungor talk about their upcoming tour. Plus, Propaganda and Alma from the Red Couch Podcast tell us about their upcoming series on intersectionality, It's Complicated.
January 25, 2019
Propaganda, the Brilliance, and Gungor talk about their upcoming tour. Plus, Propaganda and Alma from the Red Couch Podcast tell us about their upcoming series on intersectionality, It's Complicated.
December 31, 2018
To close out Season 4 of The Liturgists Podcast, we look back at some of the highlights from The Liturgists Podcast so far (as selected by our community on Patreon). We're hiring an Associate Producer. You can learn more here.
November 29, 2018
In this episode, we talk about the story behind Kosmos, the latest record by William Matthews.
November 15, 2018
In the final episode of our Christian series, William Matthews tells Michael Gungor why he should be a Christian.
October 18, 2018
This week, Fr. Richard Rohr joins William Matthews, Michael Gungor, and Hillary McBride to explore the question: What is a Christian? We'd love to see you at The Liturgists Gathering in Minneapolis or Nashville this Novemeber.
October 18, 2018
This week, Fr. Richard Rohr joins William Matthews, Michael Gungor, and Hillary McBride to explore the question: What is a Christian?
October 4, 2018
This week Michael Gungor and Science Mike talk with Lisa Gungor and Jenny McHargue about what Christianity is. We'd love to see you at The Liturgists Gathering in London, Minneapolos, or Nashville this year.
September 27, 2018
This is the first in a weekly series where we explore two seemingly simple questions: "Do you identify as a Christian," and, "Why or why not."Our guest on this episode is Jennifer Knapp. We'll be in London, Minneapolis and Nashville for The Liturgists Gathering this fall. We'd love to see you there.
September 20, 2018
This is the first in a weekly series where we explore two seemingly simple questions: "Do you identify as a Christian," and, "Why or why not."Our guest on this episode is Rachel Held Evans. Her new book about the Bible is called Inspired. We'll be in London, Minneapolis and Nashville for The Liturgists Gathering this fall. We'd love to see you there.
September 6, 2018
Here's a sample of our latest project: a new weekly podcast for folks who support us on Patreon called The Alien & The Robot.
July 26, 2018
As a followup to Woman, this episode explores masculinity and male identity in a culture striving for equality.
July 12, 2018
This podcast was recorded at The Liturgists Gathering in Austin, TX.If you're interested in hosting The Liturgists Gathering, let us know.
July 12, 2018
This podcast was recorded at The Liturgists Gathering in Austin, TX.If you're interested in hosting The Liturgists Gathering, let us know.
June 25, 2018
In this episode, we're talking about Lisa Gungor's new book, called The Most Beautiful Thing I've Seen.
May 31, 2018
A look at how social media impacts advocay, mental health, community building, and our view of the world.
May 18, 2018
As we gear up for The Liturgists Gathering in Austin, TX, here's a bonus episode from our Patreon podcast.
May 18, 2018
As we gear up for The Liturgists Gathering in Austin, TX, here's a bonus episode from our Patreon podcast.
May 3, 2018
Hillary, William, Michael, and Mike discuss spirtulity beyond the reach of language.
April 19, 2018
This episode is about the spiritual gift of speaking in tongues, as explored through the perspectives of science, art, and faith.
April 19, 2018
This episode is about the spiritual gift of speaking in tongues, as explored through the perspectives of science, art, and faith.
April 5, 2018
TRIGGER WARNING: The interview with Christopher West in Part 2 could be triggering to members of the LGBTQIA+ community. It's included so people with non-affiriming viewpoints on LGBTQIA+ on sexuality are prompted to examine the implications of that worldview, but we encourge our listners to use discretion before listening to that segment.   In this episode, we’re talking about how to discern what is right and healthy for people in sexual activity.   We’d like to thank our guests on this episode, and we encourage you to check out their work.   Bromliegh McCleneghan, Author of Good Christian Sex Darren Calhoun, Artist and Speaker Christopher West, Author, Speaker, Teacher and Expert in John Paul II’s Theology of the Body Caroline Lee, Artist and Photographer Jamie Lee Finch, Relationship Guide, Intuitive Healer Lisa Gungor, Artist and Author
April 5, 2018
TRIGGER WARNING: The interview with Christopher West in Part 2 could be triggering to members of the LGBTQIA+ community. It's included so people with non-affiriming viewpoints on LGBTQIA+ on sexuality are prompted to examine the implications of that worldview, but we encourge our listners to use discretion before listening to that segment. In this episode, we’re talking about how to discern what is right and healthy for people in sexual activity. We’d like to thank our guests on this episode, and we encourage you to check out their work. Bromliegh McCleneghan, Author of Good Christian Sex Darren Calhoun, Artist and Speaker Christopher West, Author, Speaker, Teacher and Expert in John Paul II’s Theology of the Body Caroline Lee, Artist and Photographer Jamie Lee Finch, Relationship Guide, Intuitive Healer Lisa Gungor, Artist and Author
April 5, 2018
In this episode, we’re talking about how to discern what is right and healthy for people in sexual activity.   We’d like to thank our guests on this episode, and we encourage you to check out their work.   Bromliegh McCleneghan, Author of Good Christian Sex Darren Calhoun, Artist and Speaker Christopher West, Author, Speaker, Teacher and Expert in John Paul II’s Theology of the Body Caroline Lee, Artist and Photographer Jamie Lee Finch, Relationship Guide, Intuitive Healer Lisa Gungor, Artist and Author
April 5, 2018
In this episode, we’re talking about how to discern what is right and healthy for people in sexual activity. We’d like to thank our guests on this episode, and we encourage you to check out their work. Bromliegh McCleneghan, Author of Good Christian Sex Darren Calhoun, Artist and Speaker Christopher West, Author, Speaker, Teacher and Expert in John Paul II’s Theology of the Body Caroline Lee, Artist and Photographer Jamie Lee Finch, Relationship Guide, Intuitive Healer Lisa Gungor, Artist and Author
March 22, 2018
In this episode, we’re discussing body image–how we view our bodies and the bodies of others.   For more, check out Hillary’s book.
March 8, 2018
Who are you? Is the body a transport vessel for the brain? This episode tackles the idea of emboidment, and our complex relationships with our own bodies.
February 22, 2018
What does it mean to be an Evangelical today? We talk with Matthew Vines from The Reformation Project as well as author/speaker Jen Hatmaker about Evangelicalism in 2018.
February 8, 2018
On this episode, we welcome two new hosts to the podast: William Matthews and Hillary McBride. Plus, we uncover the hottest new band in worship music, Abraham's Bosom.
February 8, 2018
On this episode, we welcome two new hosts to the podast: William Matthews and Hillary McBride. Plus, we uncover the hottest new band in worship music, Abraham's Bosom.
January 20, 2018
This is a bonus episode with a Loving Kindness meditation. May you find that it promotes healing in difficult times. If you'd like to try more meditations like these, join us on Patreon. If you'd like to learn more about meditation as a practice, consider our new online course about meditaiton.
December 5, 2017
This is a special live episode recorded at The Liturigsts Gathering in Seattle, WA on October 27, 2017. Thanks Hillary McBride for joining us on this episode. Her new book is available now. Special Announcement: We're starting something new next year for those of you who want to go deeper with topics we discuss on The Liturgists Podcast via video courses. If you'd like to get access to these first, you can  preorder the first two for the price of one here.
October 31, 2017
Michael Gungor, Science Mike, William Matthews, and Hillary McBride host a culture-shaping, genre-bending conversation about the most relevant (or bizarre) topics facing people today.
October 31, 2017
Michael Gungor, Science Mike, William Matthews, and Hillary McBride host a culture-shaping, genre-bending conversation about the most relevant (or bizarre) topics facing people today. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
October 17, 2017
Michael Gungor, Science Mike, William Matthews, and Hillary McBride host a culture-shaping, genre-bending conversation about the most relevant (or bizarre) topics facing people today.
October 17, 2017
Michael Gungor, Science Mike, William Matthews, and Hillary McBride host a culture-shaping, genre-bending conversation about the most relevant (or bizarre) topics facing people today.
October 3, 2017
Michael Gungor, Science Mike, William Matthews, and Hillary McBride host a culture-shaping, genre-bending conversation about the most relevant (or bizarre) topics facing people today.
October 3, 2017
Michael Gungor, Science Mike, William Matthews, and Hillary McBride host a culture-shaping, genre-bending conversation about the most relevant (or bizarre) topics facing people today.
August 15, 2017
Michael Gungor, Science Mike, William Matthews, and Hillary McBride host a culture-shaping, genre-bending conversation about the most relevant (or bizarre) topics facing people today.
August 15, 2017
Michael Gungor, Science Mike, William Matthews, and Hillary McBride host a culture-shaping, genre-bending conversation about the most relevant (or bizarre) topics facing people today.
August 1, 2017
Michael Gungor, Science Mike, William Matthews, and Hillary McBride host a culture-shaping, genre-bending conversation about the most relevant (or bizarre) topics facing people today.
August 1, 2017
Michael Gungor, Science Mike, William Matthews, and Hillary McBride host a culture-shaping, genre-bending conversation about the most relevant (or bizarre) topics facing people today.
July 11, 2017
Michael Gungor, Science Mike, William Matthews, and Hillary McBride host a culture-shaping, genre-bending conversation about the most relevant (or bizarre) topics facing people today.
June 20, 2017
Michael Gungor, Science Mike, William Matthews, and Hillary McBride host a culture-shaping, genre-bending conversation about the most relevant (or bizarre) topics facing people today.
June 6, 2017
In this episode, Michael Gungor and Science Mike discuss the relationship between violence and Christianity with Shane Claiborne.   Check out Shane’s new book, Executing Grace.
June 6, 2017
In this episode, Michael Gungor and Science Mike discuss the relationship between violence and Christianity with Shane Claiborne. Check out Shane’s new book, Executing Grace.
May 16, 2017
Michael Gungor, Science Mike, William Matthews, and Hillary McBride host a culture-shaping, genre-bending conversation about the most relevant (or bizarre) topics facing people today.
April 9, 2017
A liturgy for the beginnging of Holy Week.If you'd like a daily resource for all of holy week, join us on Patreon.
April 9, 2017
A liturgy for the beginnging of Holy Week.If you'd like a daily resource for all of holy week, join us on Patreon.
March 21, 2017
How can we engage in effective advocacy that creates change? And how can we do so without losing hope? We talked to two experts in the world of social justice and advocacy to find out.   Christena Cleveland is a social psychologist, public theologian, author and professor. She is the first Associate Professor of the Practice of Reconciliation at Duke University’s Divinity School and the author of Disunity in Christ: Uncovering the Hidden Forces that Keep Us Apart. You can learn more about her at http://www.christenacleveland.com   Micky is a perpetual learner, “justice doula”, consultant, facilitator, mama/sister/friend, nonviolence practitioner and contemplative activist living just south of Nashville, TN. After 10 plus years as a mother-baby specialist, trainer and author, she decided to shift back to earlier interests: theology and community development. She is a member of the co-learning community of NAIITS (North American Institute of Indigenous Theological Studies) and graduated with a Masters of Arts in Intercultural Studies. Learn more about her at http://www.mickyscottbeyjones.com
March 21, 2017
How can we engage in effective advocacy that creates change? And how can we do so without losing hope? We talked to two experts in the world of social justice and advocacy to find out. Christena Cleveland is a social psychologist, public theologian, author and professor. She is the first Associate Professor of the Practice of Reconciliation at Duke University’s Divinity School and the author of Disunity in Christ: Uncovering the Hidden Forces that Keep Us Apart. You can learn more about her at http://www.christenacleveland.com Micky is a perpetual learner, “justice doula”, consultant, facilitator, mama/sister/friend, nonviolence practitioner and contemplative activist living just south of Nashville, TN. After 10 plus years as a mother-baby specialist, trainer and author, she decided to shift back to earlier interests: theology and community development. She is a member of the co-learning community of NAIITS (North American Institute of Indigenous Theological Studies) and graduated with a Masters of Arts in Intercultural Studies. Learn more about her at http://www.mickyscottbeyjones.com
March 7, 2017
What’s fake news, and how can we spot it? This episode is about media literacy, and offers insights on how to spot fake news, as well as media bias, and skewed data.   We talked with Clay Johnson, author of The Information Diet and the co-founder of Blue State Digital, the firm that built and managed Barack Obama’s online campaign for the presidency in 2008.   Here’s a few resources to dig deeper:   How to tell fake news from real news - TED Ed How to Spot Fake News - FactCheck.org
March 7, 2017
What’s fake news, and how can we spot it? This episode is about media literacy, and offers insights on how to spot fake news, as well as media bias, and skewed data. We talked with Clay Johnson, author of The Information Diet and the co-founder of Blue State Digital, the firm that built and managed Barack Obama’s online campaign for the presidency in 2008. Here’s a few resources to dig deeper: How to tell fake news from real news - TED Ed How to Spot Fake News - FactCheck.org
March 1, 2017
Michael Gungor, Science Mike, William Matthews, and Hillary McBride host a culture-shaping, genre-bending conversation about the most relevant (or bizarre) topics facing people today.
February 21, 2017
We're talking about epistemology on this episode–the study of truth, belief, and justification. Sound boring? In the age of "fake news," this may be the most important topic we can cover.
February 21, 2017
We're talking about epistemology on this episode–the study of truth, belief, and justification. Sound boring? In the age of "fake news," this may be the most important topic we can cover.
February 7, 2017
Michael Gungor, Science Mike, William Matthews, and Hillary McBride host a culture-shaping, genre-bending conversation about the most relevant (or bizarre) topics facing people today.
February 7, 2017
Michael Gungor, Science Mike, William Matthews, and Hillary McBride host a culture-shaping, genre-bending conversation about the most relevant (or bizarre) topics facing people today.
January 24, 2017
As a follow-up to Lost & Found and The Other Side of the Mattress, we respond to our most common request: an episode on how to talk to your kids during and after faith transitions.
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