On The Gist, the South Bend shooting and Pete Buttigieg. In the interview, Jason Zinoman <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/12/arts/television/dad-jokes.html">recently wrote about dad jokes</a> for the New York Times so he’s here to talk with Mike about his grand theories, why we love to hate dad jokes, and if they really are as low-brow as people consider them to be. In the Spiel, the choice the Democrats face. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Solving Urban Violence

For thirty minutes each day, Pesca challenges himself and his audience, in a responsibly provocative style, and gets beyond the rigidity and dogma. The Gist is surprising, reasonable, and willing to critique the left, the right, either party, or any idea.