Orna Ross is an award-winning author and poet who founded the popular Alliance of Independent Authors, an influential professional association for self-published authors.In this interview, Leanpub co-founder Len Epp talks with Orna about her background in publishing, the changing roles of literary agents, getting her rights back from a big publisher, the huge transformation in the self-publishing in the recent past, Self-Publishing 3.0, her Go Creative! series, and a number of other topics.This interview was recorded on October 30, 2018.The full audio for the interview is here. You can subscribe to the Backmatter podcast in iTunes or add the podcast URL directly.This interview has been edited for conciseness and clarity.