This episode was recorded when Ron Steslow was host of The Lincoln Project Podcast (www.<a href="http://lincolnproject.us/">lincolnproject.us</a>). He is no longer affiliated with the organization. This feed is now the home of Politicology. Ron Steslow sits down with former Republican communications director and Senior Advisor to The Lincoln Project, Tara Setmayer. This wide-ranging conversation touches on the history of the Republican Party’s relationship with race, what has changed from Lincoln to Trump, the reemergence of the confederate flag and our recent ad, “Flag of Treason,” Trump’s response to the George Floyd protests, all of which are happening on the backdrop of the COVID-19 pandemic. You can hear more from Tara on her podcast, “Honestly Speaking with Tara Setmayer. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a>

End of the Reality Show Presidency

Politics in America is transforming. We’re embarking on a new series to deepen our understanding of who we are, how we got here, and how we rebuild without repeating the mistakes of the past. Ron Steslow hosts academics, behavioral economists, social psychologists, politicos, philosophers, anthropologists, journalists, poets, and storytellers—and more—to discuss America’s political present and future and dive into the deeper problems we face as a nation. Email us questions or comments: podcast@politicology.com.