A Gen X-themed show with podcast veterans Wynter Mitchell-Rohrbaugh and Karen Tongson (Pop Rocket). W2X revisits the pop culture & social issues that defined Generation X from a (queer) woman-of-color perspective in a way that sheds new light on the pop culture from both then, and now.
Karen and Wynter kick off a brand new season joined by June Diane Raphael, co-founder of the Jane Club, and star of Grace and Frankie, Long Shot and The High Note. June Diane drops in to BLOW OUR MINDS with her read on Clueless, a movie she used to think was good, but realizes might actually be bad. This week’s Nuo Lingo is really hard to understand for most folks, and you get 2 SOTW’s for the price of one!
In this summer bonus episode, Karen shares her spring interview with Emily Saliers of the Indigo Girls in preparation for her NPR article on the duo.
Special thanks to NPR Music (especially Ann Powers and Marissa Lorusso), as well as the Indigo Girls and their team (especially Carla Parisi and Russell Carter) for making this all happen!
In this summer bonus episode, Karen shares her spring interview with Amy Ray of the Indigo Girls in preparation for her NPR article on the duo. Special thanks to NPR Music (especially Ann Powers and Marissa Loruss
o), as well as the Indigo Girls and their team (especially Carla Parisi and Russell Carter) for making this all happen! Stay tuned for KT's interview with Emily, coming up next.
Wynter and Karen welcome guest Karina Longworth of You Must Remember This for their season 2 finale! Karina tells us all about Polly Platt, the subject of this season’s YMRT. We get into how sexism, and the auteurist focus on her ex, Peter Bogdanovich, rendered Polly “invisible” in various ways. Wynter also brings us “The Pudding,” and Karen tells us about Disclosure, a new Netflix doc on transgender representation.
Wynter and Karen reunite with their former podmates Guy Branum and Margaret Wappler in this supersized episode fundraising for G.L.I.T.S and SummaEverything! The fierce foursome indulge in a deep catch-up about everything from the demise of the “girl boss,” to 90 Day Fiance and Top Chef All Stars, all while processing the pop culture in the last year since they wrapped Pop Rocket. The gang puts their Gen X heads together for an analysis of Generation Z, who are revved and ready to lead the revolution.
Wynter returns this week, as we welcome special guests Renee Bever (artist, co-host of Attack of the Queerwolf), and Tavia Nyong’o (author, Professor of American Studies at Yale). The panel catches up about how they’ve been participating in the national uprisings while reflecting on some of the media moments, both head-scratching, and inspiring. The panel devotes some deep conversation to “good civil rights movies” vs. really shitty ones.
We stand with the Black Lives Matter movement in advocating for racial justice, and against police violence. Queer scholars & activists, Homay King and Jeanne Vaccaro join Karen to offer reports and resources for social justice actions, including ways of contributing for those who cannot participate in street actions. They discuss the media coverage of protests, race, and the pandemic, while reflecting on how race, feminism and LGBTQ politics intersect, or fail to, in “pride month” media.
Wynter is off for the week, so one of Karen’s oldest BFF’s, the poet, writer and performer Raquel Gutierrez joins her from Tucson, AZ to talk about everything from making pizzas with coral mushrooms to Netflix’s Lovebirds. Raquel, aka “Raquefella” brings us her thoughts on why we are so obsessed with pop culture about billionaires. Nuo-Lingo gives us a word befitting the age of Zoom, plus a slinky SOTW from the 80s.
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Guy Branum joins us for an impromptu reunion to talk more about Ryan Murphy’s Hollywood on Netflix. Last week, guy texted Karen about the show, which we covered in our supersized Ep. 35. 6 hours later, we got together with Guy to dish even more on all the golden age of cinema hawniness!
Wynter and Karen are not alone! Special sexxy guests, Guinevere Turner and Alonso Duralde join them for a deep hang, and some scandalous conversation about Ryan Murphy’s Hollywood, a new limited series rife with queer pool parties and other gratuitous forms of wish-fulfillment. The full kiki was captured on video for our Patreon subscribers, plus we have another surprise special guest coming through for some BoCo on Hollywood, so pop on over to https://www.patreon.com/waitingtoxhale to join us in Dreamlan
Karen & Wynter dive into the fray to discuss Mindy Kaling’s latest sitcom, Never Have I Ever on Netflix. They engage multiple perspectives on the show, from controversies around its caste bias, to its role in diversifying contemporary teen representation. Which one is going in for a free drive-thru Covid-19 test? And who survived a harrowing trip to Tarzhay? Who got sucked into Netflix’s Hollywood? And who fell in love with Alice Wu’s The Half of It? All this, plus, nuo-lingo and a boppin’ SOTW.
Wynter & Karen talk through the twists and turns of the 90s-set racial melodrama, Little Fires Everywhere. Both continued to explore online extravaganzas this week, including Sondheim’s 90th Birthday Concert, and the Melrose Place cast reunion. Karen also accidentally watched, and enjoyed, the HBO original film Bad Education starring Hugh Jackman and Allison Janney. Wynter shares a Nuo-Lingo you should all stop doing, and they leave you with a cover of a 90s classic as the song of the week.
With the 1983 classic, Valley Girls back on streaming services, Wynter and Karen revisit the film alongside other San Fernando Valley gems like Karate Kid, Earth Girls are Easy, La Bamba and of course, Boogie Nights. Wynter chimes in on Babyface vs. Teddy Riley, while Karen plunges into the catacombs with the Phantom of the Opera 25th Anniversary production that streamed for free on YouTube for 48 hours.
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Karen and Wynter greet you from the new nation of Cascadia, or OrCaWash, or whatever you prefer to call the western pact states. This week the two also get into all sorts of pop culture they’ve been consuming, from Karen’s first true “binge” of the quarantine, to Wynter’s obsession with 90 Day Fiancee, as well as her disappointment in HBO’s Run. Conspiracy theories abound, and we’re here to debunk all of them (mostly). Plus, a nuo-lingo from The Economist (how fancy!)
It’s their third week of quarantine, so Karen is talking to Steak-umm on Twitter, and Wynter thinks Ellen sux. In lieu of music festival season launching this April, the two offer their own virtual W2X music festival for you this week. And, Wynter lets us in on some of the themed playlists she’s been crafting for our sisters and fairy podmothers at the Jane Club, fit for everything from dining-in, to being “extremely chill.” Listen along with us, and turn the music up!
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Wynter and Karen each enter week 3 of their respective quarantines, so their habits (pop cultural and otherwise) have taken some unpredictable turns. Find out what they’ve been watching, listening to and doing that indicates they’ve gone over the edge. Find out why neither Wynter or Karen are surprised that Joe Exotic exists. Plus, NUO-LINGO and a new SOTW!
Karen & Wynter are in week two of their quarantines in Echo Park & Encino, following “shelter in place” directives from Gov. Newsom in California. This prompted them to wonder which fictional characters from the 70s, 80s or 90s would they would actually want to shelter in place with for various practical, and sometimes other reasons. Plus, a very of the moment Nuo-Lingo, and a song of the week cover that made Karen cry.
Wynter and Karen record remotely from their separate quarantine pods and give you an update on what they’ve been doing during their respective quarantines. Spoiler alert: they sure as hell ain’t writing King Lear. Mostly they’re just wrangling their Boomer parents–and their own deep anxieties. The two break it all down for us. Plus, what’s a Zoom cocktail party like? Nuo-lingo brings us a term fit for the Roaring 20s, and a SOTW about closeness, even as we socially distance.
Like everyone else in the world, Wynter and Karen are preparing for a possible Coronavirus quarantine. With the world as eerie and uncanny as it is in the age of late capitalism, both are feeling a little like they’re actually living in disaster films like Contagion, Outbreak, Cloverfield, Idiocracy and even...Jurassic Park (!) Plus, a longer than usual nuo-lingo chat about when slang veers in and out of cultural appropriation.
Karen and Wynter fixed their audio problems just in time to record in the wake of Super Tuesday 2020. In light of all this political drama, the two also tell us what TV helps them go “nighty night” after a long and stressful day of facing the world. You might be surprised--or not--at Wynter’s frightening selections, while Karen gets into how The Circle is a perfect sleepytime TV show. Warning: there are some Love is Blind spoilers. Plus, nuo-lingo and a song fit for Tuesdays.
Have you ever bought something “as seen on TV” and not available in stores? Wynter and Karen stroll down memory lane about the most irritating and captivating infomercials from the 80s, 90s and today, while sharing their reviews of products that either they or their parents actually bought. It’s the end of an era for the Real Housewives of Orange County, and Karen revels in Season 40 of Survivor. Plus, nuo-lingo is back, so you best “pull up.”
This week, Karen and Wynter take on the Netflix phenomenon, Cheer, a docuseries about the championship cheer squad from Navarro College in Corsicana, TX. Wynter speaks candidly about what it’s like to embark on life in her 40s. Karen has taken on the daily ritual of trying to perfect the tornado omelette, while explaining to us the meaning of “borrid” after a screening of Portrait of a Lady on Fire. Plus, a song of the week that comes with an 80s movie recommendation!
What box subscriptions keep Wynter and Karen thrivin' and survivin'? Wynter tells us all about a very different kind of streaming service that serves up classic Blaxploitation, while Karen finally admits which celebrity chef taught her how to cook. It's Oscar season, so the two share their very different feelings about another hostless ceremony, while looking back on some of their favorites. Nuo-lingo is tea-related, and the two offer up an Oscar-winning song as a mantra for 2020.
Wynter and Karen return from their holiday hiatus, and reflect on what 2020 has wrought thus far, and speak from the heart about the complicated feelings each of them experienced as Angelenos after the tragic death of Kobe Bryant and his daughter Gianna. The two tell us what entertainment sustained them during their break, and take a deep look back at one of E.W.'s "top 50 movies about High School," Just One of the Guys. Plus, nuo-lingo is back and better than ever!
Grounded in the hopeful spirit of songs by Band Aid and U.S.A For Africa, Karen and Wynter chat about what they’re grateful for in 2019 – and look forward to renewed focus and positive productivity in the coming year. While Wynter hopes Instagram removing likes from the platform eases our anxieties, Karen recommends a book on choosing activism that actually makes us feel good. The two also discuss Apple+’s viability in the streaming world, boundaries at work, and leave us with a rockin’ SOTW!
Karen and Wynter couldn’t resist diving into season 3 of Netflix’s most opulent and expensive series, The Crown as soon as it was released. How do the two feel about the new cast, lead by Oscar-winner Olivia Colman & Helena Bonham Carter as we enter EIIR’s midlife transformations? Karen has a little something to say about Gen Z labeling Gen X a bunch of “Karens.” And as usual, nuo-lingo enhances our vocabulary, as Wynter gets us bopping to a new song of the week.
W2X goes back to school w/ Professor Tongson’s class on U.S. Pop Culture LIVE at USC! Tre’vell Anderson from OUT magazine and Sarah Kessler, the TV editor for Public Books join Karen for a backwards glance at the early 2000s and the “postfeminism” of Sex & The City vs. The L-Word. Tre’vell offers us a preview of the L-Word sequel, Generation Q, while Sarah tells us about her bodice-ripping amusements when Karen is out of town. Plus, Nuo-Lingo and SOTW!
All hail Regina King! Her turn on HBO’s The Watchmen alerted most of white America to the existence of a “Black Wall Street” in its opening depiction of the 1921 “Tulsa massacre.” This episode explores the shifting TV representations of the BMC or “black middle classes,” from King’s debut in the 80s sitcom 227 to the Johnsons of Black-ish today. Karen and Wynter also talk GBBO gossip, 90 Day Fiancé drama, and a new interior design competition. Plus: NUO-LINGO and SOTW!
With the recent release of Paul Rudd's Netflix series, we began to ask ourselves which everyman, GenX heartthrob might be the "better" version of another? We stage a showdown between everybody's favorite nice guys, Paul Rudd vs. John Cusack. Wynter relishes in the boos heard ‘round the world, as Nats fans confronted the president in their house. Karen declares Parasite one of the top 2 films of the year, and the two take stand on “OK BOOMER” in this week’s Nuo-Lingo. Plus, another slappin’ song of
***SPOILER ALERT - MIDSOMMAR AND HEREDITARY PLOT DETAILS ARE DISCUSSED IN THIS EPISODE***Wynter and Karen get into horror/suspense auteur Ari Aster’s impressive body of work exploring intergenerational trauma, and what they call “intimate horror” within families and between lovers. Wynter goes to the theater to see Famous, and Karen finds refuge in the Asian and gaysian plentitude on primetime sitcoms. NUO-LINGO drops some onomatopoeia, and the SOTW is deeply beloved by both hosts.
*SPOILER ALERT: MAJOR PLOT POINTS FROM THE JOKER ARE REVEALED IN THIS EPISODE* This week, Wynter and Karen are joined by Heather Matarazzo, who’s played some of the most iconic roles in film and TV over the last 25 years. The three get into a stunning range of conversations about life, death, and “acceptance” before debating Todd Phillips’ The Joker. Then, they revisit the gay '90s and the impact of independent film-making vs. the mainstream films that took on LGBT representation in that era.
Wynter & Karen welcome Madin Lopez, a stylist and the founder of ProjectQ: a non-profit organization benefiting LGBTQ+ homeless youth by providing free gender-affirming haircuts, and safe-spaces, as well as life-skills workshops. On this National Coming Out Day, the three evaluate Queen Latifah’s career and how her iconic characters, Cleo from Set it Off, and Khadijah from Living Single have influenced queer people of color over the last 25 years. Plus NUO-LINGO and our SOTW!
With the recent debut of Ryan Murphy’s American Horror Story: 1984, Wynter and Karen take the occasion to explore his deeply nostalgic oeuvre to consider whether or not his dominion is 80s camp or 90s magic realism, i.e. horror stories or true crime stories? Wynter goes Inside Out with Demi Moore’s new autobiography, Karen GAGS over the recently announced thirtysomething reboot, while both take a detour into The Affair’s wild psychosexual turns as it wraps up its series run.
Karen and Wynter travel all the way to the University of Mississippi in Oxford for their first live show, with special guests Kiese Laymon and Alysia Steele. Befitting their idyllic campus setting, the panel gets into how School Daze vs. Dear White People (the TV series) each explore the minefield of desire and student culture at universities. W2X thanks the Sarah Isom Center for Women and Gender Studies, and director Professor Jaime Harker for bringing us out to Ole Miss!
Kirsten Dunst just received a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame! Karen & Wynter dive deep into her under-appreciated career and her rise to box-office domination. Wynter calls new career opportunities in from the universe, and Karen finally plugs her fall book tour and gives us another update on the bisexual modifications required of Bachelor in Paradise. We're taking a break for our live show next week, so soak this one up to tide you over!
Disney rolls out the reboots at its annual D23 convention and--surprise, surprise--there's little to tickle the fancies of Generation X, with all the devotion to Lizzie McGuire & HSM. Wynter & Karen remedy that by telling you which Disney reboots from the 70s & 80s they'd be interested in seeing. Karen fishes for a Netflix sponsorship, and Wynter follows up her previous VMA chatter with a postmortem on the broadcast. Plus, what's a TikTok (in Nuo-Lingo), and your SOTW.
Wynter and Karen dive headfirst into a long-simmering debate from the last 30 years--Brenda vs. Kelly--as the Fox reboot, BH 90210 confounds and excites viewers with its many layers of meta. Wynter is excited about this year's VMA's (!?!?), but only because Dr. Missy Elliott received the Video Vanguard award. Karen's wife has lured her into Bachelor Nation with this season's queer-ish Bachelor in Paradise. Plus: NUO LINGO and a SOTW!
Wynter and Karen are abuzz with news of the casting for Ryan Murphy's next season of American Crime Story on the Clinton impeachment, with Monica Lewinsky on board as a producer. Each reflect on that moment in history as a turning point when politics and tabloid journalism collided. Wynter visits Mexico for her anniversary, and Karen talks about what it feels like to visit a red state in the age of Trump, as well as season 3 of GLOW's Asian politics. As usual, NUO-LINGO and our SOTW!
W2X goes wild as we conjure a raucous showdown between urban legends, Cocaine Bear vs. Meth Gator! Who are they? What are they? Wynter tells us all about the new boomer cable channel MeTV as we have a slight skirmish over GenX shows like The Facts of Life that also appear on the network. Meanwhile, Karen explains her strange relationship to the Gordon Ramsay TV empire. As always, we've got nuo-lingo for you and a SOTW.
It's a battle of GenX matinee idols, Brad Pitt vs. Leonardo DiCaprio. Wynter and Karen reflect on the arc of Brad & Leo's careers in light of their latest joint venture, Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. The two also reveal the special joys of "secret single behaviors" when they take themselves out without their spouses. Wynter hits the comedy clubs, and Karen talks about her close encounter with Maya Rudolph & PT Anderson at the movies. Plus, nuo-lingo and your SOTW.
Wynter and Karen get into how Generation X uses YouTube, from nostalgic forays into old commercials and landmark pop culture moments, to how-to videos and instructional content. But they don't stop there: Wynter also scours YouTube for fresh content to break us all out of our slacker rut. The two stage an ad war between Mentos vs. Diet Pepsi, and ask you to sus out some "nuo lingo." As always, we close things out with a SOTW.
Karen and Wynter get deep into summer shenanigans, both their own, and everything we've seen on screen since the 1980s. Karen is surrendering to yoga while catching up on Big Little Lies, and Wynter has some thoughts to share about all the online drama over casting a black Little Mermaid and black female 007. This week's title card showdown is a battle royale between two summer films from the 80s and 90s. Plus, more "nuo lingo" and not one, but two summer songs of the week (SOTW).
Wynter catches up with Karen after she returns from her month-long book tour abroad, and the two get into some of the things KT missed back in the U.S. of A. , including HBO MAX, and the new series Euphoria. Karen (who saw a couple of World Cup games in France) gets into how we are all living in Megan Rapinoe's Sapphic summer, and the two debate Goonies vs. Stand By Me--the coming-of-age films that served as GenX source-texts for Stranger Things 3. Plus more "nuo lingo" and your SOTW (Song of the Week).
It's the debut episode of Waiting to X-hale, a Gen X-themed show with podcast veterans Wynter Mitchell-Rohrbaugh and Karen Tongson. W2X revisits the pop culture & social issues that defined Generation X from a (queer) woman-of-color perspective in a way that sheds new light on the pop culture from both then, and now. In our first episode, Wynter & Karen welcome you to their world, and debate who'd come out on top in a head-to-head showdown between SINGLES vs. REALITY BITES.