0:00 - 9:00 | Jon and Zay cover Broadway and Jon’s NYC exploits.
9:00 - 33:26 | Zay and Jon cover Zay’s responds to the theoretical haters. What if you’re you’re good enough to make it? What does success look like? What are Zay’s weaknesses as a director? Is there a difference between films and movies? Is it more important to make a critically or financially successful movie? Do you have to choose? How do you cover important issues in movies in a way that has staying power?
33:30 - The Mail Bag (and a little salute to Teddy Bronson)
35:00 - Where do ideas and inspiration come from?
37:05 - 42:10 - Zay recounts his wonderful experience at David Chang’s Restaurant, [Majordomo](https://www.majordomo.la/)
42:10 - 46:15 - Jon and Zay’s Adventures with the homeless (and not-homeless)
46:15 - 57:00 - Project update on Rollers / Zay’s almost got a casting director and he’s talking to producers (and more adventures with the homeless)
59:20 - Zay (who just started playing guitar) plays a horrible cover of “Take Me Home, Country Roads.” This is how the song is supposed to sound.
Rodgers and Hammerstein’s Carousel on Broadway | Website
The Play That Goes Wrong | Website
Hunter Gatherer | Director: Josh Locy
Annihilation | Trailer
Monster Trucks | Trailer
"Friday" Music Video | Side note: the video has 123,120,758 views as of today’s date
A Confederacy of Dunces by John Kennedy Toole | Buy it on Amazon!
“HBO Must Get Bigger and Broader, Says Its New Overseer” | Read it on the New York Times
Barry on HBO | Watch the Trailer
Operation Midnight Climax | This is some crazy shit
Won’t You Be My Neighbor | Watch the Trailer
The David Chang Experience
The Balthazar Cookbook | Buy it on Amazon
An excellent international organization that helps people with mental illness | Website
Santa Sangre | IMDB
The Great Comet | Produced by Tara Sickmeier and others
Bruce Springsteen has been married for 27 years | "Bruce Springsteen and Patti Scialfa's Love Story Proves They Were Always Meant to be Together"
A Mama Bear Studios Production // Mama Bear Studios’ Website
Produced and Edited by: Isaiah Smallman
Executive Producer: Jon Schimpf
Opening music: "The Get Down," Produced by Summer Dregs
Outro music: Composed and Recorded by Tom Paulus and Max Belz
Cover Art by: Nate Giordano
Show Website | ThatWay.fm
Show Twitter | @ThatWayPod