August 11, 2020
We are joined by Delia D'ambra, a full-time investigative journalist and the host of Park Predators, a podcast that details some of the most horrific murders that have taken place in national parks.  Needless to say, maybe don't let your kids listen to this one.   We cover the triple crown of Adam Sandler movies, do another round of one minute gear reviews, a point / counterpoint on inflatable vs closed cell foam sleeping pads, and learn about diarrhea inducing gummy bears.
August 3, 2020
Barney "Scout" Man is a famed Trail Angel, triple crowner, and author.  This convo focuses on Scout's new book , Journeys North, Scout's beautiful account of his and Frodo's 2007 PCT thru-hike.  We learn what went into this immense research project, how he and Frodo fended off a bear with a two-part harmony, and we're blessed with a short reading from the book. We have another one-minute gear review, introduce a new segment- point / counter point, a triple crown of summer foods, & once again lose our min
July 22, 2020
Today we are joined by Luke Kloberdanz, the director of philanthropy at the Ice Age Trail Alliance. We geek out very much on all things Wisconsin, and maybe commit to making it the destination of Backpacker Radio's next road trip. Luke talks about his thru-hike of the IAT, the wonderful tradition that is the Wisconsin Fish Fry, and why it might be the ideal pandemic trek. We get sucked down a Taco Bell Vortex, unveil a new full-time opening at The Trek, & just generally lose our minds at the end of this o
July 13, 2020
We are joined by Daniel White, known on trail as The Blackalachian. We learn about The Blackalachian's life before he was a full-time adventurer, including his days as a rapper and his time in prison, his experiences with racism on the AT, his thru-bike of the Underground Railroad Route, and his hikes of The Great Outdoors Challenge in Scotland and Camino del Norte in Spain. We wrap up the show with the Triple Crown of Summer Wins and a new Backcountry Matchmaking.
June 29, 2020
We are joined by Jamey Mossengren aka The Unicycling Unicorn.  Jamey traded in his cushy 9-5 job to pursue the life of a street performer. Not only does Jamey make a living on his unicycle, he's also unicycled both the Colorado Trail & Arizona Trail!  We chat about these rides, his thru-hikes of the AT and Camino del Norte, and what goes into being a successful street performer. We also talk about the return of 2020 AT thru-hikes, we introduce Hiker Horoscopes, & another edition of Backcountry Matchmakin
June 19, 2020
Today, we are joined by Doug Laher, the father of Trevor Laher, the hiker who tragically passed near Apache Peak on the Pacific Crest Trail earlier this year. Doug reads his beautiful tribute to Trevor and we talk about what lessons are to be learned from Trevors passing. We also chat with Kaitlyn Purington, of the Riverside Mountain Rescue Unit, a search & rescue non-profit based in Riverside County. We also have some Trek Propaganda, how to check your bung for deer ticks, & our favorite creature comforts
June 12, 2020
Today we are joined by Luke “Strider” Jordan.  Strider has a couple of very impressive treks on his resume including the North Country Trail (NCT), which is more than twice the length of the Appalachian Trail, as well as the 3,100 mile Great Plains Trail (GPT), which runs from Texas to North Dakota.  We also discover the wild world of naked pooping, a fan-submitted poop paradise on the John Muir Trail, and another edition of Backcountry Matchmaking.
May 21, 2020
Sarah Jones Decker is the author of the new photobook "The Appalachian Trail: Backcountry Shelters, Lean-tos, and Huts".  We learn what goes into a project as massive as doing a photo essay of all of the AT's shelters, Sarah's favorites, the history of these structures, which have the best privies, and much more.  Sarah is also the co-owner of Root Bottom Farms, an organic farm based in North Carolina, and we selfishly pick her brain on how to suck less as plants.
May 13, 2020
Shug Emery is a hammock enthusiast, with almost 100K YouTube subscribers and a former circus clown for Barnum & Bailey.  We go way down the traveling circus rabbit hole, and we promise you his stories do not disappoint. Shug also shares his top tips for novice hammockers, what his setup looks like, and what goes into making a successful YouTube channel. We close out the show with some Trek propaganda, a triple crown of things we will no longer take for granted, & another edition of backcountry matchmaking
April 27, 2020
Will "Akuna" Robinson is an army veteran, the first known African-American male to complete the triple crown, & an all around awesome guy.  We talk about his experiences in managing chronic pain, how hiking interfaced with his PTSD, what it's like hiking through rural America as a black man with dreadlocks, and some of the highlights / lowlights of each of his hikes. We also learn how people are keeping busy during the apocalypse & introduce a new segment, Backcountry Matchmaking- an on-air dating service.
April 15, 2020
Jean Muenchrath is a mountaineer, escaper of death, author, and spiritual being.  Jean gives us a play by play of the time she nearly died after catastrophic fall near Mt Whitney in winter conditions.  She walks us through not only this harrowing tale, but the long process to physical, emotional, and spiritual recovery, the subject of her book If I Live Until Morning: A True Story of Adventure, Tragedy and Transformation. We wrap up the show with some listener emails, Poop Stories, & One Line Movie Revie
April 9, 2020
This episode is dedicated to all things COVID-19.  We chat with a pair of experts on infectious disease and epidemiology. Dr. Amesh Adalja, is an infectious disease specialist at the Johns Hopkins University Center for Health Security, and Jagdish Khubchandani is a Professor of Health Science at Ball State University. We also are joined by a pair of 2020 NOBO turned NOGO thru-hikers (and Trek contributors), to share their experiences of how this pandemic played out from their perspectives.
March 30, 2020
Backpacker Radio is making good on their promise to get weird.  Today we bring you a drunk Q&A.  Backpacker Radio's new intern, Elise Ott, navigates us through a series of questions, including COVID-19, how we're handling the self-quarantining, a lot of poop related subjects, thru-hiking purism, and much more.  At the top of the show, one of Chaunce's friends gives us the poop story to end all poop stories.  This one is our most feral podcasts to date.  Because that's what you do during an apocalypse.  [divider] Drunk Q&A with  Badger & Chaunce Save 10% at by using code "TREK2020" at checkout. Save 15% at by using code "ATDRINK15" at checkout. Save 10% at by using code "BACKPACKERRADIO" at checkout. Hikerlink! Intro Song: Walking Slow by Animal Years Intro beats: Pauly Boy Shallcross Check out Trail Correspondents Check out The Attempt! [divider] Drunk Q&A 0:03:52 - Intro, Welcome to BPR (long-distance style)  0:05:00 - Elise Ott Introduction (new BPR intern), articles on the Trek  0:05:50 - Casey’s Poop Story to End All Poop Stories 0:24:30 - We Meet Harper (after she pees on the floor)  0:26:44 - What are your favorite TP substitutes?  0:30:00 - What would you do if you were on trail right now? Even if you were 400 miles in? 0:41:43 - What international long hikes are Chaunce and Zach hiking or dreaming about? 0:45:00 - Only ramen for an entire trail or only mashed potatoes? 0:47:17 - If you ran out of toilet paper during your quarantine, what would you use to wipe?  0:54:22 - If you had to drink one celeb’s bath water whose would it be? 0:56:00 - If you had to pick another sport besides hiking to invest your time, energy, and money into, what would it be? And why? 1:00:00 - Is it okay to day hike right now?  1:09:00 - Ad break!  Save 10% at by using code "BACKPACKERRADIO" at checkout. 1:17:45 - If you had to shelter in place would you use a tent or build a shelter? What food would you bring? 1:28:28 - What kind of mud is Chaunce using to build her hut? 1:32:00 - The question, “what is your most memorable road walk?” turns into a discussion on thru-hiking purity.  1:50:09 - Are people as mean on the trail as they are on facebook? 1:55:09 - The Final Question (there are two): If you could name a pet or child after a place on trail? 1:58:15 - The Final Question (the second one): Could you do a major thru-hike backwards? And if you did, what gear adjustments would you make?  2:02:00 - Actually The Final Question: Will Chaunce take Harper on a thru-hike?  02:12:55 - Follow us on social media! (Chaunce's Instagram, YouTube, Facebook | Badger's Instagram, Elise's Instagram) [divider] Have any praise, questions, praise, comments, praise or praise for Backpacker Radio?  Reach out to Subscribe to this podcast on iTunes (and please leave us a review)!  Find us on Stitcher and Google Play. Support us on Patreon to get bonus content. A super big thank you to our Chuck Norris Award winner(s) from Patreon: Andrew, Austen McDaniel, Cristopher Marshburn, S11N, Sawyer Products, Thomas Fullner, and Travis Smith. A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: Gregory Gardner, Jacob Northrup, Jeff LaFranier, Mark Snook, Michelle Pugh, Peter Leven, Peter Ellenberg. Follow The Trek, Chaunce, Badger, and Trail Correspondents on Instagram. Follow The Trek and Chaunce on YouTube. Follow Backpacker Radio, and Chaunce on Facebook. Follow The Trek on Twitter and sign up for our newsletter.
March 25, 2020
Sandi Marra is the president and CEO at the Appalachian Trail Conservancy.  Sandi shares how the ATC arrived to the decisions to ask people not to thru, section, or even day hike on the Appalachian Trail. She also shares her timeline for when their recommendation could change, and what that would take, as well as her message to those who are still on the trail, whether in defiance of the request or those who are having trouble getting a ride off the trail.
March 18, 2020
No one on earth loves the Adirondaks more than Erik Schlimmer. Certainly no one possesses his combination of knowledge and hiking experience of this range. Erik wows us with his knowledge of the Adirondacks, what toponyms are (and some fascinating examples), his career as a bird catcher, and his time as a coach on MTV Made.  Badger opens the show with his two cents about thru-hiking during a Coronavirus pandemic, and we close the show out with ultralight vibrators and poop stories.
March 11, 2020
Courtney Dauwalter is an ultra-running legend, with wins at the Moab 240, the Javelina Jundred 100K, Run Rabbit Run 100-mile race x2, Western States 100, Ultra-Trail du Mont-Blanc, amongst others. Chaunce shares her poop story with Courtney, Courtney tells us about how she sees flying eels on trail, that time she went blind, & how she continues to chisel away at her pain cave. We also have a triple crown of spring things that make us tingle, we plan a thru-hiker's going away party, and listener poo stories
March 2, 2020
The Strawbridge Family successfully thru-hiked the PCT SOBO in 2018 with four kids in tow- ages 11, 13, 14, and 17.  We chat about everything regarding hiking as a family, including how they handled school, gear, their pace, managing emotions, and so on.  Vince and Monica, aka mom and dad, are fact checked by Georgie, Henry, and June, the youngest three of the four kids.  We close out the show with a triple crown of ways to pass time on trail and of course, more listener poop stories.
February 12, 2020
We are joined by repeat guest Steven "Twinkle" Shattuck, along with his lovely wife, Grace. They detail their year-long adventure beginning with a traverse of The Hayduke- followed by some very serious globetrotting, including backpacking trips in the UK, Scandinavia, Western Europe, Eastern Europe, Morocco, Thailand, and Nepal.  We wrap-up the show with our first ever edition of The Newlywed Game and explanation of how cranes work from an emailer, with some impromptu horse facts.
February 10, 2020
Today's show is dedicated to all things girl stuff.   We've kicked aside the segments and dove straight into everything to do with thru-hiking as a woman. In addition to Chaunce, we are joined by former guest, guest co-host, and listener favorite, Weezer, along with Chaunce's AT buddy & Trek Vlogger, Fireball.  These badass backcountry gals enlighten us on everything from managing periods on trail, to dealing with creepy guys, dangers to women, birth control, sex, gender dynamics, hygiene, pee rags, & m
February 5, 2020
We are joined by Wild Amanda aka Naps. Naps thru-hiked thePCT with her dog, Frank.  We go down the rabbit hole on what it takes to accomplish this, including recommended gear, how she handled Frank's food and water, how she curtailed her hiking schedule to best suit Franks needs, and more. Naps also profiles the Sunshine Coast Trail, which she's thru-hiked 3 times. We wrap up the show with the triple crown of Ben & Jerry's flavors, chips worth going to prison for, and another listener poop story.
January 28, 2020
The Attempt follows Benjamin Drachman during his *attempted* SOBO thru-hike of the PCT in 2019.  The show is produced by Julia Drachman- and no that last name is not a coincidence, Julia is Ben's older sister.  What may shock you about this show is its production value.  And by that, I mean, it has production value.  We're all about trying new things here at The Trek. The first three episodes of The Attempt are available for your listening pleasure now. New shows will be released every other week.
January 21, 2020
Donna Sauffley has served as a trail angel to Pacific Crest Trail hikers for more than two decades. Donna comes by her trail name, "L-Rod", short for lightning rod, very honestly. She's exceptionally outspoken, a ball of energy, and has a deep passion for the PCT and its community.  This is a fun, emotional, educational conversation. We also chat about how you can get a free trip to the moon, do a triple crown of stereotypes you meet on trail, and are blessed with another listener poop story.
January 8, 2020
"Crazy Jack" Northam has earned his name by summiting Mt. Whitney (the highest peak in the United States' lower 48) nearly 200 times, an endeavor he didn't begin until the ripe age of 50 years. Chaunce and I close out the show by highlighting the top shelters on the Appalachian Trail, give an official ruling on the best Dorito flavor, do the Triple Crown of food items remaining in your bag when get to town, and get into a new recurring segment, Listener Poop Stories.
December 30, 2019
Scott is the go-to resource for all things hiking in Southern California.  He's the co-author of the latest version of "Afoot and Afield: San Diego County", known as San Diego's hiking bible.  Scott shares his favorite hikes in San Diego county, including the best short trails, long trails, the trail with the best ecological diversity, the best history, and much more. We also cover the top footwear on the Appalachian Trail in 2019, our predictions for 2020, more horse facts, and Chaunce has a mini-meltdo
December 19, 2019
Today we are joined by comedy legend, Kevin Nealon.  In case you've been living under a rock for for the last 30 years, Kevin Nealon is famous for his years on Saturday Night Live, his character on Weeds, he's a popular standup comedian, he's been in a slew of movies, and he's now the host of his own YouTube show, Hiking with Kevin.  Kevin regales us with tales from his time at SNL, his favorite Chris Farley story, that time he helped deliver his son, along with his favorite hiking spots around Los Angele
December 11, 2019
The Cinnamon Connection take on all things Trans Catalina Trail (TCT), which Chaunce and Badger thru-hiked a month(ish) ago.  We give a day-by-day rundown of the hike, including an overview of the terrain, wildlife, how to get there, campsites, resupply, gear advice, water, navigation, and wine mixing. We also talk about the dumbest things we've forgotten to pack on a backpacking trip, talk about ways to be more sustainable on a backpacking trip, and why Christmas music sucks.
November 29, 2019
With Black Friday, Cyber Monday, Where's Waldo Wednesday, Thumbwar Thursday, & all the rest on the horizon, there is no better time to score your 2020 gear purchases than the present.  But with a never ending fire-hose of gear roundups coming your way during this holiday season, how do you decide on which items are best suited for your long distance goals? We reached out to Backpacker Radio's previous guests to share their favorite gear items.
November 21, 2019
Anitra Kass, aka Nitro, is a triple crowner and the PCTA’s Southern California Regional Representative.  Anitra is a wealth of information on all things PCT.  We talk about the new permitting changes for the Sierra & for southbounders, some of the biggest threats to the trail, how to best get involved as a volunteer for the PCT, CrossFit, and more.  Chaunce and Badger give a peek into their first aid kits, we unveil the triple crown of chips, and get some advice on how to ease kids into the backcountry
November 15, 2019
We are joined by legendary PCT trail angels, Terrie and Joe Anderson of Casa De Luna.  Much like the PCT itself, this conversation is fun, winding, long, and you'll be left wanting more when it's all over. We talk about how they got into trail angeling, some of their favorite stories over the decades of running Casa de Luna, why they're closing up shop, and more.  We've also talk about staying in shape over the winter, and give a conclusive answer to "when is a nero a nero?".
October 26, 2019
Today is all about Vermont's 270-mile Long Trail. We dissect Badger's recent thru-hike on the Long Trail, including its terrain, the towns, how it changes after splitting with the Appalachian Trail, suggested gear, and more. Chaunce and Badger also sit down with Chef Corso of Monty Boca. Chef Corso is a classically trained chef who gives the Cinnamon Connection some pointers on improving their piss pour backcountry meal game- without using a dehydrator.
October 18, 2019
Matt "Pretzel" Mason is a triple crowner, trail runner, sober hiker, former Mountain Crossings employee, wildland firefighter, gear snob, and bona fide character. His beard game is strong, and his opinions are stronger. This is our longest episode to date, and it promises to entertain throughout.
October 8, 2019
Jeffrey Garmire aka Legend has hiked just about every trail in the United States. Today, we catch up on all that he's accomplished since last joining the Cinnamon Connection (just a few months ago) including his Unsupported FKT on the Long Trail, his Pinhoti Trail FKT, his new book, and being alone in second place for appearances on Backpacker Radio. We talk all about his backpacking diet, disdain for gear talk, and more. We close out the show with a new segment- Trail Trivia, the drinking game.
September 29, 2019
Today's guest is Peter Bakwin, co-creator at We dive deep on all things FKT related, including his take on some of the more controversial FKTs, the proper way to document a speed record, and how he spearheaded this community. We also talk about Peter's long and impressive background in backpacking and ultra running, including his unmatched Rock-hard Hard Rock run. We also have a new unpopular opinion segment, a patent pending and much more.
September 5, 2019
Today, we are joined by record holder, trail legend, author, and Backpacker Radio repeat offender, Heather "Anish" Anderson. We go into depth on her new book, Thirst, which chronicles her 2013 Fastest Known Time on the PCT, including her lowest moments from the hike, mountain lion encounters, and dealing with extreme heat in the southern California desert. We also talk gear, diet, and metamorphosis. We also get into a Trek Propaganda which raises the question of whether Chaunce is ruining backpacking.
August 20, 2019
The Cinnamon is Connected for good. Or for bad. But undoubtedly, for the foreseeable future. Chaunce and Badger go deep on the rest of Chaunce's Appalachian Trail thru-hike, including untold poo stories, her take on New Hampshire and Maine, her legendary chafing, how she gained weight while thru-hiking, and how she plans to combat post thru-hike depression. We chat about Badger's recent hikes on the Wind River High Route and Pfiffner Traverse. We introduce a brand new segment and a Patent Pending.
August 1, 2019
Renee Patrick, known on trail as She-ra is a triple crowner, designer, and all-around Renaissance Woman.  In addition to hiking pretty much every trail in the United States and some abroad, she's also served in the Peace Corps, interned at the Smithsonian, and presently serves as the coordinator at the Oregon Desert Trail. She shares stories of being caught in a military coup in Africa, having her pack stolen by a bear, being bitten by a brown recluse on the AT, and building + selling a merchandise compan
July 23, 2019
Clay Bonnyman Evans, aka Pony, is an author, long time Trek Writer, AT and Colorado Trail thru-hiker, and someone with a deep passion for the trail and its culture. We touch on a wide array of subjects in this episode, including some controversial topics such as the Twelve Tribes and Yellow Deli, Inchworm's tragic death on the AT, bringing a gun on a thru-hike, YouTube scam artists, how privilege pertains to thru-hiking, barfing on poo and way more.
July 11, 2019
In today's episode of Backpacker Radio, I am joined by 2019 Western States 100 winner, Clare Gallagher. Not only is Clare a world-class ultra runner, she's also a vocal and passionate environmental activist, Princeton graduate, Patagonia athlete, and all around powerhouse.  She shares how she was able to pull off the most important victory in her young ultra running career, the two weeks she spent hanging out with Tommy Caldwell in the arctic leading up the race, and all she's doing to save the world.
July 4, 2019
At this year's Trail Days, Badger caught up with Juliana Chauncey aka Chaunce, who was roughly half way into her AT thru-hike. She regales us with tales from the first 1,000 miles of her trek, including what has surprised her, how her gear system has held up, and how it's differed from her PCT hike. We do a Triple Crown of Highlights from the southern half of the Appalachian Trail, get a bot's analysis of Backpacker Radio, and hear our freshest poop story in the history of the podcast.
June 19, 2019
Jim Kern is a name you ought to you know. He's the founder of the Florida Trail Association, co-founder of the American Hiking Society, founder of Big City Mountaineers, & the founder of Hiking Trails for America. He gives us his best pitch on why someone should hike the Florida Trail and how he's fighting to guarantee a continuous footpath on our national scenic trails for posterity. We also catch up with Pox Holiday of the Pox & Puss Podcast to talk about the future of their show & Baltimore Jack stories
June 10, 2019
We are once again joined by Backpacker Radio's most invasive species, otherwise known as The Real Hiking Viking. We hear all about his two month long stint on the Jordan Trail. He tells us all about this trek, the region, its people, the food, and the experience altogether. We also chat about what went wrong on his Long Trail winter thru-hike attempt, and how he opted to swallow his pride instead of putting his life at risk.  We end with a triple crown of gear we're excited to test in 2019.
May 24, 2019
In today's episode of Backpacker Radio, myself plus a special guest co-host are joined by Jeff "Legend" Garmire.  He's back, and oh boy, does he have new stories to share, including the time he had to superglue his foot shut.  We chat all about his previous year, which was arguably busier than anyone in the backpacking world, including his Great Western Loop, a 7,000 mile hike, and his recent Arizona Trail FKT.  We go way deep on both of these hikes, when we're not filling the airwaves with laughter. So
May 10, 2019
In 2015, Scott Jurek was the most talked about person on the Appalachian Trail, even the trail community at large.  As soon as the legendary ultrarunner announced that he was bringing his talents to Appalachia, a flurry of fanfare and press followed suit.  Though his record has been broken a pair of times since, the swell of attention has yet to be matched.  Jabba and Badger sit down with Scott Jurek and his wife and head crew member, Jenny Jurek, to learn about his supported FKT.
May 3, 2019
Despite this being his first thru-hike, last year Jon "Airborne" Schwarze became just the 5th person to yo-yo the Pacific Crest Trail (to thru-hike the same trail in both directions in one year or less).  We go balls deep on everything that went into this trek, including the differences between his NOBO and SOBO hike, his gear, his bizarre and demanding diet, what it was like meeting Scott Williamson, and how his background (despite having limited backpacking experience) played a major role in his success.
April 24, 2019
In today's episode of Backpacker Radio, presented by The Trek, Badger sits down with Weezer, a 2018 PCT hiker with one hell of a story. We talk about what it's like to be in the PCT's bubble as a sober hiker, an incredibly sad life event she had to endure while on trail, & how the trail has played a role in her metamorphosis to a better life. We get a new thru-hiker of the week & close out with a triple crown of PCT restaurants, joined by Puma. This is an emotionally dense, yet ultimately, uplifting show
April 15, 2019
Smiles & Badger sit down with author Ken Ilgunas. We talk at length about his time hiking the length of the Keystone XL Pipeline, where had to not only trespass for much of the hike, but knock on complete strangers doors for help many times. He shares his take on public vs. private land and why Americans should have the Right to Roam. Ken shares about his time living out of his van, before #vanlife was a thing. We feature a new thru-hiker of the week and a new segment.
March 28, 2019
In today's episode of Backpacker Radio, we are joined by adventuring legend, author and backcountry guide, Andrew Skurka. We touch on a lot of subjects including his ridiculous backpacking trips, his favorite backcountry routes, his bear bagging recommendations, the current state of rain gear, specific gear recommendations for an AT / PCT thru-hike, and so much more.  Strap in, this is a fun interview filled with a ton of valuable insight. We also debut Thru-Hiker of The Week, featuring Second Chance Hike
March 20, 2019
In today's episode of Backpacker Radio, we're joined by Peter Downing, a modern day renaissance man. We chat about his history as an ultra runner (including his 4 wins at the Buena Vista 50), his time in the Peace Corps, career as a lawyer, & his latest undertaking, Suffer Better, a community of ultra runners whose mission is to give back. It's a fun, freewheeling convo where Peter teaches us all about the ultra world. We end with a lewd edition of Would You Rather.
March 10, 2019
In today's episode of Backpacker Radio, we're joined by Justin Helmcamp, aka Two Taps, who was kind enough to extend his layover in Denver to record this show.  We chat about his Flip Flop thru-hike of the Appalachian Trail, his hike on New Zealand's Te Araroa, and his work as a wilderness therapist.  We do a patent pending.  And we commence the #ChaunceDontChafe hashtag.
March 1, 2019
In today's episode of Backpacker Radio, we are joined by Gummy Bear, a 2018 PCT hiker and all around awesome dude.  We do a deep dive on his experience as being a gay & plus size hiker. We chat about his upcoming Arizona Trail hike. The Cinnamon Connection deliver the PCT class of 2019 a warning for what they can expect to see in the Sierra this year and why you might want to consider hiking southbound. And we discuss the triple crown of things to freak out about before leaving for a thru-hike.
February 22, 2019
Today's show is a special edition, an experiment, and a community-sourced show, all rolled into one giant tortilla, hiker trash style. A few months ago, I put a call out to The Trek's bloggers / vloggers to share their top tips for someone who's about to embark on a thru-hike. This advice runs the gamut and can often even be contradictory to one another. The reason for this is simple, there is no one single approach to successfully thru-hiking. Pick the advice that works for you and discard the rest.
February 14, 2019
In today's special Valentine's Day episode of Backpacker Radio, we sit down with Grizzly and Jenna, a couple due to hike the Pacific Crest Trail and Colorado Trail this year.  We learn about how they plan to keep the love alive in the midst of 3,000 miles of backpacking.  We also breakdown how to hike 30 miles in a day, and talk a whole lot about orgies on trail. It's a very sexy show, so grab the chocolate and the oysters, and pull up a seat.
February 5, 2019
In today's episode of Backpacker Radio, we sit down with Teresa Martinez, the executive director at the Continental Divide Trail Coalition.  We talk all things CDT, including the future of the trail, the biggest threats to its continued development, Teresa's favorite stretch of trail, and way more.  We also talk through some layering strategies for the Appalachian Trail, and Chaunce gives us a primer on vlogging etiquette.  We close out the show by featuring your questions via Instagram.
January 17, 2019
In today's episode of Backpacker Radio, the Cinnamon Connection catches up with Bill Manning, the Executive Director at the Colorado Trail foundation. We do a deep dive on all things Colorado Trail related, including the best time to hike the trail, the biggest mistakes aspiring thru-hikers make, and the inner workings for keeping such a beautiful trail afloat. Chaunce lets us in on a mega surprise, and we cover the most popular sleeping bags used on the AT last year.
January 7, 2019
In today's episode of Backpacker Radio, Chaunce sits down with famed PCT trail angels, Scout and Frodo. We get an in depth look at Scout's new book, "The Continental Divide Trail: Exploring America's Ridgeline Trail", his passion for writing, and we learn about the first person to hike the Continental Divide. We also cover the most popular tents used by 2018 Appalachian Trail thru-hikers, and get into a new segment, Forgotten Internet Holidays.
December 20, 2018
A life changing adventure is merely a decision away. That's the takeaway lesson from today's interview with Bethany Hughes, who, just a few years ago, was running the books at her local H&R Block and miserable for it. Fast forward to December 2018- she just completed trekking the length of South America- the first piece of her goal to travel the length of the Americas by non-motorized means. We learn all about this adventure and all the the incredible stories and lessons that come with it.
December 6, 2018
Without any prior backpacking experience, Mike “Kickstand” Papadatos decided that instead of starting with the AT, PCT, or CDT, that he’d string them all together in a calendar year. The Paprika Pals sit down to learn what inspired him to jump headfirst into the world of extreme long distance backpacking, the challenges he faced along the way, and the evolution of his gear during his journey. We then enjoy some thru-hiker transformation photos and get into a heated debate about the best hangover rem
December 3, 2018
Today is our season finale. We hear from our hikers a couple weeks (or more) removed from their treks. We learn how the lessons and habits of their former lives have bled over into "the real world". Of course soaking up the adventure for what it is, while it's happening, is of utmost importance- but in our perspective, it's how these hikes alter someone's world long after they've left the trail that's of most interest. Today we learn about this, the struggles of adjusting back, & more.
November 21, 2018
Today's guest is fitting for our 23rd episode, as she is the Michael Jordan of backpacking. Heather "Anish" Anderson has set the self-supported FKT (fastest known time) on the Appalachian Trail, Pacific Crest Trail, and Arizona Trail.  She is also in a small, exclusive club of triple triple crowners- those who've hiked each of the triple crown trails 3 times each.  Most recently, she became the newest member of the Calendar Triple club, to hike all three triple crown trails in a single calendar year.
November 18, 2018
If this episode doesn't give you goosebumps, seek medical attention.  Today we hear from our hikers at the end of their journeys.  More specifically, they give us two different check ins- the night before their last day on trail, and from the summit itself.  As you can imagine, this is an emotional moment for any thru-hiker.  Although the journey is the destination, the destination is the goal, to succeed at this near half-year pursuit toward a single, tangible end is good reason for a heart-felt outpou
November 1, 2018
We're joined by Ryan Linn aka "Guthook" the man behind the uber-popular Guthook App- a navigation tool for long distance backpackers. He shares his backpacking background, the inspiration for the creation of the app, his coding background, and what the future beholds for his app. We also talk about Jennifer Pharr Davis' article on Health Insurance Options for Thru-Hikers, ways to poop in the woods, the ranking of New Hampshire's 48 4,000 foot peaks. and Triple Crown of Thanksgiving Foods.
October 26, 2018
Diversity on the trail is a heavy, but important subject. It's impossible to do this subject justice in the span of an hour long podcast, but it's a conversation worth having nonetheless. Our hikers touch upon the diversity (or lack thereof) they've witnessed on trail, specifically across age, nationality, gender, sexual preference, and race. We also hear from Elsye "Chardonnay" Walker, who's one of the few (if not the only) black woman to hike the triple crown, who shares her take on the subject.
October 19, 2018
What does it take to turn a thru-hike turns into an 18-month adventure?  That's the central theme of today's show as the Cinnamon Connection is joined by Nathan "Puma"Bauman- who, after hiking the Appalachian Trail, next hiked on the Continental Divide Trail, Long Trail, & Pacific Crest Trail within 1.5 years. We talk about the differences between the 3 triple crown trails, what it's like to quit on a thru-hike, why the Long Trail is the most difficult trail, & some tips for aspiring trail-photographers.
October 10, 2018
In today's show, our hikers discuss the evolution of their hiking groups over the course of their journeys.  Injuries occur, people grow apart, paces differ, life happens.  You get to learn the ins and outs of how and why this happens directly from the mouths of our hikers.  Also, we say farewell to another of our trail correspondents.  You'll get to hear who's getting off- and why- at the end of our hikers' updates.
September 29, 2018
Reoccurring guest The Real Hiking Viking joins the Turmeric Team to chat about his recent fastest known time attempt on the Colorado Trail.  We chat about what ultimately went wrong (spoiler alert), what he would do differently in a future attempt, and FKT culture and requirements. Finally we unveil a new segment, "The Triple Crown of..." In this first edition we share things that can ruin a hiker's day on trail.
September 14, 2018
Before leaving for a long distance trek, it's common to envision worst case scenario. For Piers Ellison, on his 2016 PCT hike, this fear became a reality when he was bitten by a brown recluse spider.  We talk in depth about this nightmare, how he hiked the entire PCT while carrying his guitar, the challenges an international must confront in order to hike one of the United States' long trails, and finally, Piers delights us by playing a pair of songs from his new EP "Distance".  Also, Chaunce is drunk.
September 10, 2018
Technology on a thru-hike.  Combining these words often rouses heated debate.  Some people abstain entirely from technology during their hikes, while other are nearly constantly plugged in.  Most fall somewhere in the middle. We check in with our hikers to get their take.  Specifically how they interact with technology, how they witness their fellow hikers using their devices, and whether it's ultimately good or bad for the hiking community at large.
August 28, 2018
What's in store for the future of the Appalachian Trail? This is one of the primary topics in today's episode of Backpacker Radio, as the Cinnamon Connection are joined by Andrew Downs, the Central and Southwest Virginia Regional Director at the Appalachian Trail Conservancy. We also talk about the negative consequences of trail magic, thru-hiker entitlement, Leave No Trace, bear canister regulations on the AT, how people can most effectively give back to the AT, and embarrassing chaffing and poop stories
August 24, 2018
Many people's perception of the thru-hiking lifestyle comes via social media, where people are more likely to portray the the cheery aspects of this undertaking. You see the breathtaking views, the smiling faces, the slender bodies, and the hiker camaraderie. What you often don't see is the chafing, the injuries, dehydration, never ending rain, the heat, the cold, the attrition, loneliness, sleep deprivation, home sickness, and the bugs. Well, you'll get a taste for that in today's show.
August 16, 2018
In episode 17 of Backpacker Radio, the Paprika Pals are joined by Dr. Emily Kelly, a physical therapist based in Centennial, Colorado.  She answers Badger and Chaunce's selfish injury related questions, along with a slew of others sent in from Writers and Bloggers at The Trek. If you're dealing with a hiking-related injury or are looking for ways to reduce your injury risk, there's some valuable insight in this podcast for you.
August 6, 2018
In episode 11 our thru-hikers have been tasked with describing the highs of their journey.  Specifically, we learn what keeps them going- what they most look forward to each day- and what they think they'll miss most once their journey is over. Today, we hear from: Kate Mueller aka Sassafras, Jacob Beaver, Lauren Peruffo aka Fainting Goat, IBTAT, Miles Bisher aka "Miles To Go", Kate Emmons, Lukas Isaacson, Madeline Newel, Sarah Mowery, Rachael “Rabbit” DeLano
July 30, 2018
In Episode 16 the Paprika Pals sit down with Nadia “Furball” Westenburg to talk about the pros and cons of thru-hiking with a dog. She also regales with tales from the West Highland Way and Tour du Mont Blanc, both European trails which Furball has trekked. Also, Chaunce catches us up on her Colorado Trail section hike while Zach sulks about his upcoming knee surgery. The trio also explain some of the common lingo used in the thru-hiking world. Lastly, the gang get into a heated game of Would You Rath
July 17, 2018
Today's episode hits on some subjects that are often top of mind for thru-hikers and those curious about the undertaking. They are: food, how hikers' bodies change over the course of their hike, and gear. We learn more about hiker hunger, the "eat anything and everything and still lose weight diet", and what gear they've sent home. Lastly, we get an emotional goodbye from one of our correspondents- as the injuries have piled up and become too much to bear.
July 11, 2018
In today's show, Badger & Chaunce are joined by trail legend, Appalachian Trail FKT record setter, author, and National Geographic Adventurer of the Year, Jennifer Pharr Davis. We go down the rabbit hole about her new book, The Pursuit for Endurance. We also find out which is more painful: setting an FKT or bearing a child and what her current go-to gear is. We also touch on the best backpacks for thru-hikers and what our go-to clothing system was for the Pacific Crest Trail
June 28, 2018
Maybe don't listen to this podcast during your lunch because Chaunce has an all-timer poop story. Also on episode 14 of Backpacker Radio, the Cinnamon Connection is joined by 2016 Appalachian Trail thru-hiker and 2017 Pacific Crest Trail thru-hiker John "Data" Harvey.  Data discusses the differences between hiking SOBO and NOBO on the two trails, how his love for thru-hiking has transitioned into ultra-running, and what it's like to hike during a drought and a record-high snow in consecutive years.  We chat about the importance of the Land and Water Conservation Fund to the Appalachian Trail (an article written by episode 8 guest, Laura "Hey Girl" Johnston).  Lastly, we celebrate our 100,000th download by challenging our guest to a good old fashioned game of "truth or dare, but not dare" aka keep it a'hundid. Topics discussed include: Silicone wedding rings so you keep all your digits Data's Instagram Bonus Episode 2 MLD Duomid Big Agnes Fly Creek UL2 Hyperlite Mountain Gear Windrider 2400 REI Quarter Dome 1 Enlightened Equipment Quilt Nolan's 14 Land and Water Conservation Fund and it's impact on the AT by Hey Girl Meat Eater Podcast Ep 116 with Senator Heinreich Have any praise, questions, praise, comments, praise or praise for Backpacker Radio?  Reach out to This episode was recorded at Wayfinder Co-op. Intro song Walking Slow by Animal Years. Subscribe to this podcast on iTunes (and please leave us a review)! Download this podcast.  Find us on Stitcher and Google Play. A super big thank you to our Chuck Norris Award winner(s) from Patreon: Sawyer Products, Evaristo Villela A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: Gregory Gardner, Kate Hurley, Clint "DuctTape" Sherbet, and Peter Leven. Follow Data, Backpacker Radio, The Trek, Chaunce, and Badger on Instagram. Follow The Trek and Chaunce on YouTube. Follow The Trek on Facebook, Twitter and sign up for our newsletter.
June 25, 2018
This is a fun episode, as our hikers were tasked only to report on whatever subject was at the forefront of their minds.  Topics discussed include the simultaneous love and disdain for ukuleles, the selflessness of the hiking community, the 24 x 24 x 24 challenge, why hikers complain, a comparison of the AT, PCT, and CDT from a pair of soon to be triple crowners, what it's like to go through a mental rut on trail and how to dig yourself out, and much, much more
June 12, 2018
This is Backpacker Radio's first remote recording. Badger is joined by The Real Hiking Viking as well as the dynamic duo of Stories from the Trail, Gary Sizer and Megan Thompson, to talk about Trail Days, thru-hiking, FKT training for the Colorado Trail, and much more.  Weaved throughout the episode are interviews with 2018 AT thru-hikers.  Lastly, the show features a conversation with Tom Kennedy, co-founder of Hike for Mental Health,
June 6, 2018
Niki "Bionic Woman" Rellon is the first woman to thru-hike the Appalachian Trail on a prosthetic leg.  This is just the tip of the iceberg in terms of her accomplishments and life story.  Tune in for the AT talk, stay to learn more about her life as a trained chef, paramedic, cross country cyclist, and champion kick boxer. Also, Badger and Chaunce engage in a heated battle of Iron Chef: Trail Food Edition.
June 4, 2018
When backpacking through the backcountry for months on end, there's one thing that can be relied upon: expect the unexpected.  Today's episode focuses in on exactly that- the biggest surprises from the trail.  Specifically, what caught our hikers most off guard?   Today we hear from: Kate Emmons (PCT) Lukas Isaacson (PCT) Madeline Newel (PCT) Miles to Go (PCT) Sarah Mowery (PCT) Rabbit (CDT)
May 29, 2018
When backpacking through the backcountry for months on end, there's one thing that can be relied upon: expect the unexpected.  Today's episode focuses in on exactly that- the biggest surprises from the trail.  Specifically, what caught our hikers most off guard?  Today we hear from: Gwen Nitya (AT) IBTAT (AT) Fainting Goat (AT) Jake Beaver (AT)  Sassafras (AT) Emily Dutton (AT)
May 16, 2018
Today's episode is all about how to eat right on and off trail.  We are joined by thru-hiker and soon-to-be certified holistic nutritionist, Katie "Salty" Gerber, to go way down the rabbit hole about how hikers can improve their on-trail nutrition game.  We also touch upon some of the best sleeping bags and quilts for thru-hiking, learn a bit about the Wind River High Route, and are unexpectedly joined by a homeless person.
May 15, 2018
Today we hear from the 2nd batch of our thru-hikers about a week into their journey.  You can find the first part of this here.  Today we hear from: Jake Beaver (AT) Gwen Nitya (AT) Lukas Isaacson (PCT) Madeline (PCT) Rabbit (CDT)
May 9, 2018
Backpacker Radio celebrates reaching its double digit episode birthday (?) with a bonus interview from Pacific Crest Trail super trail angel, Frodo, of Scout and Frodo fame. But first, the crew sits down with Chaunce's PCT buddy, Ballflap, as he is mere hours away from beginning his migration to the southern terminus of the Appalachian Trail. Topics include: thru-hiking in sandals, a soggy sleeping bag, losing your girl friend and frisbee on trail, peeing out of your tent, and the Class of 2017 PCT Video.
May 3, 2018
Today we check in with the other half of our trail correspondents during a excitement and/or diarrhea-filled period of their journey- the night before starting their thru-hikes. Today we hear from Jake Beaver (AT) Gwen Nitya (AT) Miles to Go (PCT) Kate Emmons (PCT) Lukas Isaacson (PCT) Madeline (PCT) Rabbit (CDT) Get all their updates here: Support the show here:
April 24, 2018
If you've listened to Sounds of the Trail, you already know today's guest.  Backpacker Radio is joined by Laura "Hey Girl" Johnston- an AT and PCT thru-hiker, conservationist, conversationalist, and an all-around smart and congenial gal. Topics from this show include: Curcumin, Sounds of the Trail podcast, Hey Girl's love of Patagonia Baggies, Highlights from the NC / TN section of the Appalachian Trail, & Interview with Stephen Harrod Buhner author of Healing Lyme. Reach out to
April 19, 2018
Episode number 4 of our Trail Correspondents series comes directly from the trail!  Our hikers were tasked with interviewing a fellow thru-hiker about their first impressions of their journey. Today we hear from Jeff "IBTAT" Oliver (AT) Kate Mueller (AT) Emily (AT) Fainting Goat (AT) Miles Bisher (PCT) Kate Emmons (PCT) Sarah Mowery (PCT) Support the show at
April 17, 2018
Today we sit down with 2017 PCT thru-hiker, Dirt Squirrel.  Dirt Squirrel will destroy any notions you have about Millennials.  She is 23-years-old, well-spoken, doesn't like social media, journals in her notebook daily, and above all, loves hiking and the outdoors. In this episode topics include: Arches National Park, Zion National Park, utilizing school grants for thru-hiking, hiking as a vegan, hiking as a solo female, the best restaurants on the PCT
April 9, 2018
Today we check in with half of our trail correspondents during quite possibly the most nerve-wracking moment from the journey- the night before starting the thru-hike. Today we hear from: Sassafras, Jeff "IBTAT" Oliver, Fainting Goat, Emily Dutton, and Sarah Mowery. You can support the show through our Patreon page- which helps us to get episodes more out frequently. Reach out to or
April 4, 2018
In the first episode of our new Trail Correspondents series, you met our Appalachian Trail hikers. Now it's time to meet our Pacific Crest Trail and Continental Divide Trail hikers. This first episode introduces us to our Appalachian Trail hikers.  They are Rachael "Rabbit" DeLano, Miles Bisher (aka "Miles To Go"), Kate Emmons, Sarah Mowery, Lukas Isaacson, and Madeline Newel. Support the show at Leave us feedback at
March 28, 2018
Completing the triple crown, to hike the Appalachian, Pacific Crest, & Continental Divide Trail, is a lifelong dream for many. Doing this in a single year is almost unheard of. This is exactly what Jeffrey "Legend" Garmire accomplished in 2016. In this episode, we learn everything that went into Legend's Calendar Triple including daily mileage, toughest days on trail, hist favorite stories, and gear used. He also touches on his Pacific Northwest Trail thru-hike and conquering all of the 14'ers in Colorado
March 26, 2018
We are thrilled to introduce the first episode of our new Trail Correspondents series.  In a nutshell, a small group of thru-hikers from the Appalachian Trail, Pacific Crest Trail, and Continental Divide Trail will be submitting audio recordings during their hikes. Get the full post and introductions at: Support the show through Patreon: Leave us feedback at
March 20, 2018
Serial thru-hiker and peak bagger Steven "Twinkle" Shattuck and his wife Grace are about to travel the world, while living out of their backpacks for a year.  We snagged Twinkle during his last night in town to learn how he saved for this epic adventure, what gear he'll be taking, and advice to those who want to follow in his footsteps.  We also talk about the best headlamps for a thru-hike and how thru-hiking can remedy anxiety.
March 13, 2018
Shailee Basnet went from someone who never hiked to summiting Mount Everest in less than two months. Since conquering the tallest mountain on earth, Basnet spearheaded the Seven Summits Women Team, which became the first female team in the world to climb the highest peak in each continent. We also chat about the differences between the Appalachian Trail and Pacific Crest Trail, thru-hiking purism, and a new series by hiking legend Jennifer Pharr Davis!
February 28, 2018
For Episode #4, we are again joined by our buddy, The Real Hiking Viking.  This time, instead of an interview, Jabba joins us as the 3rd co-host of the show.  Subjects discussed in Episode 4 include: The Real Hiking Viking & Badger's Pacific Crest Trail Diet, Ian Mangiardi ambushes Badger and Jabba (their documentary- As It Happens), Scariest Moments from the Trail, 2-sentence advice to thru-hikers. Support the show: Find the show notes at
February 14, 2018
Episode #3 of Backpacker Radio is an ode to Valentine's Day. We are joined by Reptar, the creator of the popular Appalachian Trail documentary, "The AT Experience", to talk love + romance.   Subjects discussed in episode 3 include: Comparing the Sawyer Squeeze to the Katadyn BeFree, Reptar falling in love on the AT, breaking up with his love on the PCT, how this intertwines with his next documentary, Listener love + romance stories from the trail, + questions from Chaunce's sorority sisters.
January 31, 2018
Badger & Chaunce are joined by 2017 PCT thru-hiker Scuba Steve and hear his tales of hiking through The Sierra during one of the highest snow years on record. In honor of episode number 2, the trio talk a whole lot of number 2. Yes, poop. Specifically, their favorite poop stories from the trail. We then look at the most popular tents, packs, and sleeping bags from the Appalachian Trail in 2017. Email your feedback at Please leave us a review on iTunes & subscribe.
January 22, 2018
This is the first episode of Backpacker Radio, a podcast about the wonderful world of thru-hiking, brought to you by The Trek.  In this first episode, we meet our co-hosts, Zach "Badger" Davis and Juliana "Chaunce" Chauncey, chat with serial thru-hiker Tom Gathman aka The Real Hiking Viking aka Jabba. In this episode, we learn more about The Real Hiking Viking, what he's hiked, what he plans to hike, and why his Instagram Stories are so long.
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