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July 31, 2020
Some professional sports are back, but the fans in the stands aren’t. We’ll look at how the games are being played, and if the seasons can continue. Jason Gay, Bill Littlefield and Ben Golliver join Jane Clayson.
July 31, 2020
The U.S. COVID death toll rises above 150,000. Congress debates another round of stimulus funding. Congressman John Lewis is laid to rest. It’s all in our week in review. Julie Pace, Betsy Woodruff Swan and Hayes Brown join Jane Clayson.
July 30, 2020
Det. Sgt. Heather Taylor joins Meghna Chakrabarti to talk about being a Black woman in law enforcement, the violence she’s experienced in her own life, and how that’s shaped her views and hopes for her career and country.
July 30, 2020
$600 unemployment checks are about to stop. Congressional Republicans have put forward a stimulus plan. We’ll dig into the details. Claudia Sahm, Kenneth Rogoff and Heather Caygle join Meghna Chakrabarti.
July 29, 2020
We look back at the life and work of the great American writer and thinker James Baldwin. Eddie Glaude joins Meghna Chakrabarti.
July 29, 2020
We discuss the federal presence in Portland, Oregon, as questions rise about the legality of DHS actions. What’s legal, what’s still unsettled, and who gets to decide? Jeh Johnson and Barbara McQuade join Meghna Chakrabarti.
July 28, 2020
Vaccine development is complicated. We break down the process from testing to distribution, and bring you the latest on the leading contenders for a COVID-19 vaccine. Caroline Chen, Florian Krammer and Dr. Stanley Perlman join Meghna Chakrabarti.
July 28, 2020
Did the president mean it when he told Fox News recently he might not accept the election results in November? What might happen if the results of the presidential election are contested? Former government officials from both parties held a “war game” to think through the consequences. We hear what they discovered. Rosa Brooks, Ret. Col. Larry Wilkerson and Jack Beatty join Meghna Chakrabarti.
July 27, 2020
We know that mothers are often disproportionately responsible for housework and childcare. And that’s even more challenging if you’re working. Now, the pandemic has made parents working from home and children attending online classes the new norm. So how has it affected the lives working moms? Jessica Calarco and Dani McClain join Meghna Chakrabarti.
July 27, 2020
From new ventilation systems to Plexiglass barriers, we’ll talk with a public health professor and “healthy building” expert on what changes can make our school buildings ready for kids to go back into the classroom. Joseph Allen and Luvelle Brown join Meghna Chakrabarti.
July 24, 2020
We sat down with contemporaries of the late Rep. John Lewis, including Rev. Jesse Jackson, Sr., who spoke about his close friendship with Lewis, their work together as student organizers, and much more. Read a transcript of the conversation and listen along.
July 24, 2020
The rise of Donald Trump on the political stage is the culmination of a seemingly inconvenient electoral coupling: big money interests and a more extreme right-wing populace of blue collar voters. Does the GOP represent “forgotten” Americans? Or does it represent the superrich? Jacob Hacker and Jack Beatty join Meghna Chakrabarti.
July 24, 2020
It’s our weekly news roundup. The president orders Federal law enforcement to Chicago and changes his mind on mask-wearing, Washington orders China’s Houston consulate shut, and civil rights icon John Lewis' passing. Plus, the latest on the pandemic and the 2020 election. Luis Carrasco, Anie Karni, and Susan Page join Jane Clayson.
July 23, 2020
On Tuesday, President Trump signed a memorandum that calls to restrict undocumented immigrants from counting towards House representation. But the power to make that decision, the Constitution says, belongs to Congress. So what impact will his demand have? Hansi Lo Wang and Thomas Saenz join Meghna Chakrabarti.
July 23, 2020
Unidentified federal law enforcement officers are scooping up protesters in Portland and detaining them in unmarked vehicles. They were sent to quell protests, but many say their presence is only fanning the flames. We'll discuss the legality of a president using federal force in U.S. cities, and what it means for our democracy. Timothy Snyder and Ryan Haas join Meghna Chakrabarti.
July 22, 2020
Kermode bears, also known as spirit bears, are incredibly elusive. They live only in one section of British Columbia’s central coast, and a new study indicates the gene that turns their fur white is even rarer than previously thought. We’ll talk to two researchers from the study about the quest to protect and preserve the Great Bear Rainforest. Christina Service and Doug Neasloss join Meghna Chakrabarti.
July 22, 2020
School districts across the US are struggling with how – even if – to open this fall. But schools in many countries overseas have already opened. We’ll look to see what lessons we can learn to help with our own school reopenings. Emmi Sarvikivi, Ronit Calderon-Margalit, Brandon Guthrie, Simon Denyer, Emiliana Vegas and Gretchen Vogel join Meghna Chakrabarti.
July 21, 2020
At the birth of this nation, Thomas Paine called for government baby bonds — savings bonds for every child born. The idea has been given a fresh coat of paint and is being proposed as a low cost government program to tackle the vast inequality in today’s America. Darrick Hamilton, Wendy Jones, Oren Cass and Sen. Cory Booker join Meghna Chakrabarti.
July 21, 2020
In 2009, a DHS report predicted that the recession coupled with the nation’s first Black president could give rise to a surge in right-wing domestic terrorism. Political backlash ensued, and the intelligence unit disbanded. Now, over a decade later, the report’s author is still ringing alarm bells. We share his story. Daryl Johnson, Det. Sgt. Heather Taylor and Rep. Norma Torres join Meghna Chakrabarti.
July 20, 2020
We look back on the life of John Lewis, the civil rights icon and congressman who dedicated himself to the fight for racial equality. From his emergence on the national stage during the March on Washington in 1963 to his decades as a symbol of moral authority on Capitol Hill, we remember the man and his legacy of public service. Rep. James Clyburn, Rev. Jesse Jackson, Sr., Errin Haines and Bernard Lafayette join Meghna Chakrabarti.
July 20, 2020
The legacy of John Lewis — the tireless civil rights leader and longtime representative for Georgia's 5th congressional district, who died Friday after a battle with pancreatic cancer — won't die with him, at least not if the next generation of civil rights leaders activists has anything to say about it. We speak to some of them about Lewis' mantra of causing "good trouble," and what that means to them. Kwame Rose, Rose Scott, Dawn Porter and Andrew Aydin join Meghna Chakrabarti.
July 17, 2020
60 years ago, Jane Goodall first began her close observations of Tanzania’s chimpanzees. Equipped with simple binoculars, a notebook and patience, she transformed the way the world understood primates and wildlife. She joins us to look back on her legacy, and discuss the urgent challenges around climate and conservation. Jane Goodall joins Anthony Brooks.
July 17, 2020
We review the week’s news with our panel of great journalists. Joe Biden lays out plans on climate and infrastructure. The president slams Biden, saying he wants to “abolish the suburbs and the American way of life.” Plus, the debate over how to best reopen schools, and the latest grim news on the coronavirus pandemic. Lisa DesJardins, Jane Coaston and Sewell Chan join Anthony Brooks.
July 16, 2020
In 2012, former Alabama governor Don Siegelman went to jail for five years. He says his prosecution was driven by a politicized justice system. And he's now making the case for why American democracy could be at stake without criminal justice reform. Don Siegelman and Jack Beatty join Meghna Chakrabarti.
July 16, 2020
Sociologist Michael Sierra-Arévalo spent 1,000 hours with police officers in the field. Ride-alongs, high speed chases, patrols. He says they’re taught to expect danger at every moment on the job. And that expectation is a major driver of police brutality. Michael Sierra-Arévalo and Daniel Hahn join Meghna Chakrabarti.
July 15, 2020
In 1964, Bob Moses recruited young people from across the U.S. for Mississippi’s Freedom Summer. More than 50 years later, what does he make of activism in American streets? Meghna Chakrabarti talks with Bob Moses and Taylor Branch about this moment in American history.
July 15, 2020
There’s a sense of panic about going back to school. We push past simplistic debate and take a close look at the actual decisions families and educators are making around the country. Dana Goldstein, Chris Guerrieri, Jessyca Mathews, Angela Orange and Guadalupe Guerrero join Meghna Chakrabarti.
July 14, 2020
The best friends behind the podcast “Call Your Girlfriend.” Their new book details what it takes to maintain long distance friendships. Aminatou Sow and Ann Friedman join Meghna Chakrabarti.
July 14, 2020
The Supreme Court has surprised both the left and right with rulings on abortion, presidential power, LGBTQ rights and more. Is Chief Justice John Roberts showing that this court can rise above partisanship? We recap the biggest cases of this term and look ahead to the fall. Joan Biskupic, Lawrence Lessig, Stephen Henderson and Lori Windham join Meghna Chakrabarti.
July 13, 2020
We discuss the lessons of the classic novel “Lord of the Flies.” Should humans be living by the notion of survival of the fittest — or survival of the kindest? Rutger Bregman and Jack Beatty join Meghna Chakrabarti.
July 13, 2020
Our favorite finance experts are back. We get an update from Rana Foroohar and Michelle Singletary on how the economy is handling reopening — and re-closing — because of COVID-19. Rana Foroohar and Michelle Singletary join Meghna Chakrabarti.
July 10, 2020
Libertarian extremists known as the boogaloo bois are now linked with at least two murders. We look at the origins of the movement. Cassie Miller, Kathleen Belew and Justin Hansford join Anthony Brooks.
July 10, 2020
The weekly news roundup is here. We discuss the COVID-19 surge, the presidential push to reopen schools, the limit to student visas and more. Betsy Woodruff Swan, Jack Beatty, Verónica Zaragovia and Kat Stafford join Anthony Brooks.
July 9, 2020
Could the U.S. be on the verge of a financial crash? That's what Frank Partnoy considers in a recent article in The Atlantic. He joins us to talk about the possibility of a financial crash and the risks big banks are taking. Frank Partnoy and Rep. Katie Porter join Anthony Brooks.
July 9, 2020
How the U.S. presidency became impossible. We talk to John Dickerson of CBS News about why he thinks the job is simply too much for anyone. John Dickerson and Kimberly Atkins join Anthony Brooks.
July 8, 2020
We look at a 14-mile stretch of the U.S.-Mexico border. What does a border mean in an interconnected world? DW Gibson, Nicole Ramos, Serge Dedina and Stan Rodriguez join Anthony Brooks.
July 8, 2020
Months into the pandemic, coronavirus cases continue to spike across America. We check in around the country to see how different states are responding to this COVID-19 surge. Luis Carrasco, Dr. Celine Gounder, Dr. Saskia Popescu and Monica Alba join Anthony Brooks.
July 7, 2020
Handwashing can kill the coronavirus. But you may be surprised how short the history of handwashing actually is among humans. Miryam Wahrman, Peter Ward and Emma Robbins join Meghna Chakrabarti.
July 7, 2020
Mourning the loss of a loved one in the time of coronavirus. We talk about Zoom funerals and bereavement at a distance. Thomas Lynch and Nora McInerny join Meghna Chakrabarti.
July 6, 2020
Can pandemic literature serve as a tool to understand this pandemic? Authors Tom Perrotta, Geraldine Brooks and Lawrence Wright tell us what they think. Geraldine Brooks, Tom Perrotta and Lawrence Wright join Meghna Chakrabarti.
July 6, 2020
Lessons from the New Deal. It wasn’t one big package wrapped in political consensus. We look at the real, messy process that pulled the U.S. out of the Great Depression. Lizabeth Cohen and Jack Beatty join Meghna Chakrabarti.
July 3, 2020
Astronaut Christina Koch spent a record 11 months in space, the longest spaceflight of any woman. She returned to Earth in February and is just completing her NASA-mandated readjustment period. What’s life like when you leave a space station, only to be confined in your own home under lockdown? Christina Koch joins Meghna Chakrabarti.
July 3, 2020
Looking back to 1930, the year after the start of the Great Depression. What lessons did we learn about how best to move forward with a suffering economy? We look at our current crisis now through the lens of American history. David Kennedy and Jack Beatty join Meghna Chakrabarti.
July 2, 2020
The summer blockbuster movie season will be a bit different this year during the coronavirus pandemic. Theaters are out, streaming is in, and the drive-in has come back into vogue. We’ll go behind the curtain and help direct you to the best of what the silver screen has to offer in the coming months. Shawn Edwards and Alissa Wilkerson join Anthony Brooks.
July 2, 2020
The Republican Party is falling into dangerous traps that could cost the party elections for a generation. At least, that’s the premise of Harvard Professor Thomas Patterson’s new book “Is the Republican Party Destroying Itself?” We’ll talk to him, plus Republicans who have a different vision for the future of the GOP. Thomas Patterson, Tim Miller, Matt Gorman and Kimberly Atkins join Anthony Brooks.
July 1, 2020
The Trump Administration has rolled back, or attempted to roll back, dozens of environmental rules, including regulations on emissions and air quality standards. We’ll touch on some of them and how they likely exacerbate existing health inequality. Gina McCarthy, Kendra Pierre-Louis and Dr. Georges Benjamin join Anthony Brooks.
July 1, 2020
The presidency is not the only election this year. In the Senate, just a few seats could tip the majority from red to blue come November. We’ll check in with competitive races across the country. Jack Beatty, Steve Mistler, Dawn Baumgarten Vaughan, Phillip Bailey, Brianne Pfannenstiel and Caitlyn Kim join Anthony Brooks.
June 30, 2020
We look at the experience of domestic and home health care workers who are among the most vulnerable during the pandemic. Ai-jen Poo and Rep. Ro Khanna join Anthony Brooks.
June 30, 2020
Who will Joe Biden select as his running mate? We assess his short list of candidates. Christopher Devine, Rep. Wendy Brawley, Milton Kent and Steve Phillips join Anthony Brooks.
June 29, 2020
Children’s book author Jacqueline Woodson has written over 30 books, often focused on race and identity in America. We get her take on the current moment and talk about the never-ending power of story. Jacqueline Woodson joins Anthony Brooks.
June 29, 2020
The pandemic and the protests for racial justice will certainly have an impact on the November election. We dig into what the next few months of unconventional campaigning will look like. Whit Ayres, Joel Payne and Kimberly Atkins join Anthony Brooks.
June 26, 2020
Past pandemics changed the way of life in cities around the world. We look at how city features were inspired by history's worst disease outbreaks. Brian Melican and Kimberly Dowdell join Meghna Chakrabarti.
June 26, 2020
It’s the week in review. Justice Department officials testify in Congress, the House passes a police reform bill and COVID-19 cases spike in the United States. Darlene Superville, Rick Berke and Nancy Cordes join Meghna Chakrabarti.
June 25, 2020
Recovering from COVID-19. Millions of Americans have had the disease. Some people suffer from long-term medical conditions. So what does recovery actually look like? Ed Yong and Dr. Mafuzur Rahman join Meghna Chakrabarti.
June 25, 2020
The Atlanta police officer who shot Rayshard Brooks had just completed a course in de-escalation. Why was his instinct to shoot? We have an in-depth examination of police training. Jamiles Lartey and Seth Stoughton join Meghna Chakrabarti.
June 24, 2020
From political polarization, to rising inequality, to the immediate crisis of the pandemic and police violence, faith in our civic institutions is under fire. A new report takes a hard look at the state of American democracy and considers how to fix it. Danielle Allen and Jack Beatty join Meghna Chakrabarti.
June 24, 2020
More than 50 years ago, the Kerner Commission Report laid bare the racism that led to uprisings in the 1960s. We look back at the lessons of that moment and the missed opportunities since. Fred Harris and Elizabeth Hinton join Meghna Chakrabarti.
June 23, 2020
Actor and comedian Patton Oswalt joins us for a chat about parenting, loss, his many projects and keeping humor alive through a pandemic. Patton Oswalt joins Meghna Chakrabarti.
June 23, 2020
A newly energized push for reparations for descendants of enslaved people. We dig into specific proposals and examples of reparations already in place. William Darity and Carlous Hall join Meghna Chakrabarti.
June 22, 2020
Professor, author and preacher Michael Eric Dyson has spent his life’s work grappling with the concept of race in America. And he says he’s more hopeful now than ever before. We talk with him. Michael Eric Dyson joins Meghna Chakrabarti.
June 22, 2020
We discuss the controversy surrounding the firing of Geoffrey Berman, former U.S. attorney for the Southern District of New York. Plus, we break down the message from President Trump’s Tulsa rally this weekend. Paula Reid, Jonathan Turley, Stuart Gerson and Anthony Brooks join Meghna Chakrabarti.
June 19, 2020
Celebrating Juneteenth. We talk about the push to observe and understand the deeper story of the holiday. Mary Elliott, Michael Twitty and Mark Anthony Neal join Jane Clayson.
June 19, 2020
Dueling police reform bills in Congress, an executive order from President Trump and John Bolton’s new book. We discuss these top stories and more in our week in review. Hayes Brown, Lisa DesJardins and Eugene Scott join Jane Clayson.
June 18, 2020
New York Times business writer Eduardo Porter talks about how racial hostility is impoverishing all Americans. Eduardo Porter and Jack Beatty join Meghna Chakrabarti.
June 18, 2020
Tear gas can't be used by soldiers on the battlefield, so why is it used by police on American streets? We discuss the history and possible future of tear gas. Anna Feigenbaum and Braxton Winston join Meghna Chakrabarti.
June 17, 2020
George Mpanga, better known as George the Poet, is a 29-year-old British spoken word artist. His new podcast is a genre-defying mix of music, poetry, storytelling, and personal narrative. We talk to him about his art, his push for social change and this moment now. George the Poet joins Meghna Chakrabarti.
June 17, 2020
President Trump signs an executive order on policing. We take a look at the order and discuss the administration’s response to a national reckoning with systemic racism. April Ryan, Tracie Keesee and Paul Butler join Meghna Chakrabarti.
June 16, 2020
The Supreme Court’s landmark ruling on workplace protection for LGBTQ workers. The justices ruled 6-3 that portions of the Civil Rights Act extend to gender identity and sexual orientation. We analyze the historic decision and its impact. Jennifer Finney Boylan, Greg Stohr, Kris Hayashi, Ed Whelan and Sunu Chandy join Meghna Chakrabarti.
June 16, 2020
Some states are reopening, while others have reversed course, as protests for racial justice continue across America. We check in around the country. Rose Scott, Luis Hernandez, Lauren Gilger, Casey Martin and Alex Samuels join Meghna Chakrabarti.
June 15, 2020
Working from home has become the norm for some these last few months, but will it endure after the pandemic? We explore the future of the virtual workplace. Cal Newport and Nicholas Bloom join Meghna Chakrabarti.
June 15, 2020
We talk about personal finances in the pandemic economy and hear what the protests for racial justice say about economic inequality in America. Rana Foroohar and Michelle Singletary join Meghna Chakrabarti.
June 12, 2020
A look at the Strategic National Stockpile. Where is it, what is it? What should it be used for? We talk with the man who was once in charge of the whole thing. Greg Burel and Jack Beatty join Meghna Chakrabarti.
June 12, 2020
We take stock of the week’s biggest stories. George Floyd laid to rest, the Georgia elections mess, the COVID economy and the latest headlines out of the White House. Maria Reeve, Greg Bluestein and Jane Coaston join Meghna Chakrabarti.
June 11, 2020
We talk to members of the high school class of 2020 about what it’s like to enter adulthood amid nationwide protests and a pandemic. Sandy Banks, Rafael Escoto, Rohini Madhu, Teoman Tezcan, Antonio Frias, Cammi Tirico and TaVonte Campbell join Meghna Chakrabarti.
June 11, 2020
In 2013, the city of Camden, New Jersey fired all of its police officers and rebuilt the department. We look at the lessons learned for today. Louis Capelli Jr., April Saul, Ojii BaBa Madi and Nyeema Watson join Meghna Chakrabarti.
June 10, 2020
We circle back with one of the nation’s leading public health experts about what we know about the coronavirus pandemic as the country continues to reopen for business. Dr. Ashish Jha and Dr. Utibe Essien join Meghna Chakrabarti.
June 10, 2020
Black journalists told they can’t cover protests. Racially insensitive headlines. Revolt in newsrooms. We talk about the media’s own internal reckoning with race. Alexis Johnson, Errin Haines and Akilah Johnson join Meghna Chakrabarti.
June 9, 2020
The call for a modern-day civil rights movement. We talk to two scholars of history about the need for change and healing. David Blight and Lucas Johnson join Meghna Chakrabarti.
June 9, 2020
In Congress, and across the country, there are calls for the reform of police departments. We look at what that would mean. William Riley, Tracie Keesee and Alondra Cano join Meghna Chakrabarti.
June 8, 2020
Former American military leadership has been speaking out against the use of force against protesters. We talk with some of them about why. Gen. Wesley Clark, Col. Larry Wilkerson and Mara Karlin join Meghna Chakrabarti.
June 8, 2020
Protests over racism and police brutality continue to grip the country. We hear the stories of organizers on the ground. Kwame Rose, Ianne Fields Stewart, Tay Anderson, Oluchi Omeoga and Jack Beatty join Meghna Chakrabarti.
June 5, 2020
Black Americans are disproportionately hard hit by the current loss of jobs. We explore why and what can be done to reverse this trend. Valerie Wilson, Darrick Hamilton and William Darity join Jane Clayson.
June 5, 2020
Across the country, continued protests are met by police and curfews, and President Trump advocates to bring in the military. Our weekly round table digs into the news. Jeff Pegues, Kimberly Atkins and Adam Serwer join Jane Clayson.
June 4, 2020
We are seeing people 'pushed to the edge.' That’s how Kareem Abdul-Jabbar describes the protests in the Los Angeles Times this week. We speak with the former NBA star. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar and Stephen Henderson join Meghna Chakrabarti.
June 4, 2020
People in international cities are protesting George Floyd's death. What's different in this moment that's bringing people to the streets overseas? Vashna Jagarnath, Dan Damon and Borzou Daragahi join Meghna Chakrabarti.
June 3, 2020
As protests continue across the United States, we check in directly with Los Angeles, Minneapolis and Atlanta to get the latest. Angela Davis, Rose Scott and Sandy Banks join Meghna Chakrabarti.
June 3, 2020
Racism and police brutality on the ballot. What messages are black Americans sending to politicians about what they want in November? Rashad Robinson, Cleve Wootson and Anthony Brooks join Meghna Chakrabarti.
June 2, 2020
How should parents talk with their children about all they're seeing and experiencing right now? We get some good advice. Christian Cooper, Melissa Giraud and Andrew Grant-Thomas join Meghna Chakrabarti.
June 2, 2020
Protests erupt against police brutality and use of force. In many cities, police are responding with even more force. We look at what it means about policing in America. Jeh Johnson, Jamiles Lartey, Jane Castor and Edward Maguire join Meghna Chakrabarti.
June 1, 2020
Last week, a white woman called the police on a black birdwatcher in Central Park and police killed a black man in Minneapolis. We talk about how the two events are tied together by a history of racism and policing in America. Stephen Henderson, Errin Haines and Katheryn Russell-Brown join Meghna Chakrabarti.
June 1, 2020
We discuss the nationwide protests over the killing of George Floyd, and how the media is covering, framing, and often becoming part of the story. Michele Norris and David Folkenflik join Meghna Chakrabarti.
May 29, 2020
We look at addiction and substance abuse during the coronavirus pandemic and the resources available to those who are suffering. Dr. Lipi Roy, Dr. Joseph Lee and MJ Gottlieb join Jane Clayson.
May 29, 2020
American COVID-19 deaths surpass 100,000. And protests erupt over the death of George Floyd. Our weekly roundtable digs into the week’s news. Kimberly Atkins, Eugene Scott and Anita Kumar join Jane Clayson.
May 28, 2020
As the disrupted school year winds down, educators, parents and students look toward an uncertain fall. What will school look like next year? Luvelle Brown, Randi Weingarten and Dimitri Christakis join Meghna Chakrabarti.
May 28, 2020
The CDC was once one of the most respected public health agencies in the world. Now, it's barely visible in the middle of a pandemic. So what happened? Charles Seife, Dr. Pierre Rollin and Richard Besser join Meghna Chakrabarti.
May 27, 2020
Lessons from the New Deal. It wasn’t one big package wrapped in political consensus. We look at the real, messy process that pulled the U.S. out of the Great Depression. Lizabeth Cohen and Jack Beatty join Meghna Chakrabarti.
May 27, 2020
The president has fired at least five inspectors general. It may be his right, but what does it say about political accountability and American democracy? Joel Brenner, Norm Ornstein and Charles Sykes join Meghna Chakrabarti.
May 26, 2020
Native American communities have been hit hard by the pandemic. We hear how they’re responding. Tyrone Whitehorse, Krista Allen and Dr. Michelle Tom join Meghna Chakrabarti.
May 26, 2020
“A patchwork pandemic” -- that’s how science writer Ed Yong describes what’s likely to happen as states deal with COVID-19 in their own ways. We discuss that and why that makes the outbreak harder to control. Ed Yong joins Meghna Chakrabarti.
May 25, 2020
“The Good Place” creator Michael Schur joins us to talk about morals and being good during a global pandemic. Michael Schur and T.M. Scanlon join Meghna Chakrabarti.
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