Chuck talks about why he's in no rush to see 'Rise of Skywalker,' despite being a massive fan of the franchise (5:07) and why it might be time to stop trying to expand the 'Star Wars' universe (26:45). Plus: 'Don't F**k With Cats,' a good show that you can't really recommend (36:43).Host: Chris RyanGuest: Chuck Klosterman
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Chuck talks about why he's in no rush to see 'Rise of Skywalker,' despite being a massive fan of the franchise (5:07) and why it might be time to stop trying to expand the 'Star Wars' universe (26:45). Plus: 'Don't F**k With Cats,' a good show that you can't really recommend (36:43). Host: <a href="https://twitter.com/ChrisRyan77">Chris Ryan</a>Guest: <a href="https://twitter.com/CKlosterman">Chuck Klosterman</a>
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Chuck talks about why he's in no rush to see 'Rise of Skywalker,' despite being a massive fan of the franchise

and why it might be time to stop trying to expand the 'Star Wars' universe

Plus: 'Don't F**k With Cats,' a good show that you can't really recommend

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Every week, The Ringer's Andy Greenwald and Chris Ryan -- longtime friends and pop culture addicts -- break down the latest in TV, movies, and music.