Interior designer Ghislaine Viñas talks to Amy and Jaime about what it was like to grow up in apartheid South Africa, how she accidentally landed her first real interior design job, and how she’s too adventurous to work for anyone but herself. Plus, she's not scared of anything.<a href="http://www.cleverpodcast.com/blog/ep-22-ghislaine-vinas" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Images and more from our guest!</a>Please say Hi on social! <a href="http://twitter.com/CleverPodcast" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Twitter</a>, <a href="http://www.instagram.com/cleverpodcast/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a> and <a href="http://www.facebook.com/cleverpodcast" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Facebook</a> - @CleverPodcast, @amydeversIf you enjoy Clever we could use your support! Please consider <a href="https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/clever/id1106679693?mt=2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">leaving a review</a>, <a href="http://www.cleverpodcast.com/sponsor-support/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">making a donation, becoming a sponsor</a>, or introducing us to your friends! We love and appreciate you!&nbsp;Clever is created, hosted and produced by <a href="http://amydevers.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amy Devers</a> and Jaime Derringer with music from <a href="https://www.elteneleven.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">El Ten Eleven</a> and editing by Chris Modl.Clever's promotional partner is <a href="https://design-milk.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Design Milk</a>. <hr> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.

Ep. 23: Daniel Libeskind

Clever is a window into the humanity behind the design of the world around us. In each episode, designer Amy Devers has candid and revealing conversations with the visionaries, culture-makers, and creative forces who shape our world and inform our society. Through raw candor and honest shop-talk, Clever peels back the layers to unearth the gritty, authentic and sometimes surprising details of their creative paths. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.