Story Grid Writing Podcast
Story Grid Writing Podcast
Shawn Coyne and Tim Grahl
Helping you become a better writer. Join Shawn Coyne, author of Story Grid and a top editor for 30+ years, and Tim Grahl, struggling writer, as they discuss the ins and outs of what makes a story great. More at www.StoryGrid.com.
Art, Automation, and AI — Part 2
Can you do math on a sentence? Picking up from last week, Shawn Coyne argues that an LLM produces mimicked artifacts, not original ones, and that confusing the two is where the "ghost in the machine" fear comes from. Then he goes somewhere most writers won't like: writing can be evaluated objectively, all the way down to the sentence. Drawing on Gödel, Church, Turing, Deutsch, and Shannon, he explains why a finished piece of writing is a fully computable artifact, walks Tim Grahl through the exact process he uses to give feedback on a scene, and lays out what he's actually been working toward for 35 years: formalizing what he knows well enough that a machine can analyze a writer's work the way he would, and get them feedback in seconds instead of weeks.
Oct 9
1 hr 4 min
Art, Automation, and AI — Part 1
Is AI the devil, the savior, or something nobody has defined yet? Shawn Coyne spent three years writing Mentoring the Machines with cognitive scientist John Vervaeke to answer that question, and in this episode he walks Tim Grahl through what he found. He lays out a framework for understanding every technology from the shovel to ChatGPT, explains why the real distinction isn't fast versus slow but computational versus conscious, and makes the case that what large language models fundamentally lack is myth. Along the way, he explains what the word myth actually means, why it is not a synonym for lie, and why both the "AI will destroy us" and "AI will save us" stories should make you suspicious.
Oct 2
49 min
How do you write a book you're proud to publish?
Tim Grahl surveyed 506 unpublished writers and found they'd been working on their craft for an average of 14.9 years. In any other creative field that would be a sign something is broken. In this episode, Shawn Coyne explains why studying plot, structure, and character development doesn't get most writers there, and what does: learning to write a single sentence that conforms to the mythic pattern of everyday experience. He and Tim get into why Story Grid starts students at the sentence level, why feedback matters more than theory, why a flow state can fool you into thinking bad writing is good, and the difference between journaling and actually writing for a reader.
Sep 25
52 min
The Final Episode
This will be the final episode of the Story Grid Podcast for the foreseeable future. Tim gives some background on why this decision was made along with an update on his current writing project and other happenings around Story Grid.
May 25, 2023
35 min
Crazy Rich Asians: Part 4 - What Writers Can Learn
Access the full Story Grid analysis of CRAZY RICH ASIANS at https://storygrid.com/crazy. What can writers learn from studying this 2018 film? This is the final in a four part series analyzing CRAZY RICH ASIANS. The screenplay was written by Peter Chiarelli and Adele Lim and the movie was based on a 2013 book of the same title written by Kevin Kwan. This episode is hosted by Story Grid Certified Editor Rachel Arsenault (https://www.rachel-arsenault.com) and Tim Grahl, writer and CEO of Story Grid.
May 11, 2023
1 hr 11 min
Crazy Rich Asians: Part 3 - Genre Conventions and Story Theme
Access the full Story Grid analysis of CRAZY RICH ASIANS at https://storygrid.com/crazy. What can writers learn from studying this 2018 film? This is the second in a four part series analyzing CRAZY RICH ASIANS. The screenplay was written by Peter Chiarelli and Adele Lim and the movie was based on a 2013 book of the same title written by Kevin Kwan. This episode is hosted by Story Grid Certified Editor Rachel Arsenault (https://www.rachel-arsenault.com) and Tim Grahl, writer and CEO of Story Grid.
May 4, 2023
1 hr
Crazy Rich Asians: Part 2 - 5 Commandments of Storytelling
Access the full Story Grid analysis of CRAZY RICH ASIANS at https://storygrid.com/crazy. What can writers learn from studying this 2018 film? This is the first in a four part series analyzing CRAZY RICH ASIANS. The screenplay was written by Peter Chiarelli and Adele Lim and the movie was based on a 2013 book of the same title written by Kevin Kwan. This episode is hosted by Story Grid Certified Editor Rachel Arsenault (https://www.rachel-arsenault.com) and Tim Grahl, writer and CEO of Story Grid.
Apr 20, 2023
37 min
Crazy Rich Asians: Part 1 - Is this a RomCom?
Access the full Story Grid analysis of CRAZY RICH ASIANS at https://storygrid.com/crazy. What can writers learn from studying this 2018 film? This is the first in a four part series analyzing CRAZY RICH ASIANS. The screenplay was written by Peter Chiarelli and Adele Lim and the movie was based on a 2013 book of the same title written by Kevin Kwan. This episode is hosted by Story Grid Certified Editor Rachel Arsenault (https://www.rachel-arsenault.com) and Tim Grahl, writer and CEO of Story Grid.
Apr 13, 2023
45 min
John Wick Analysis: Part 4 - What Writers Can Learn and Obligatory Moments
Access the full Story Grid analysis of John Wick at https://storygrid.com/wick. This is the final in a four part series analyzing the movie John Wick using the Story Grid methodology. This 2014 movie, written by Derek Kolstad, is a genre leading action movie. Story Grid Certified Editor Rachel Arsenault (https://www.rachel-arsenault.com) and Tim Grahl start by looking at the Story Grid Five Leaf Genre Clover before diving into the quadrants and controlling idea.
Apr 6, 2023
56 min
John Wick Analysis: Part 3 - Genre Conventions and Five Commandments
Access the full Story Grid analysis of John Wick at https://storygrid.com/wick. This is the third in a four part series analyzing the movie John Wick using the Story Grid methodology. This 2014 movie, written by Derek Kolstad, is a genre leading action movie. Story Grid Certified Editor Rachel Arsenault (https://www.rachel-arsenault.com) and Tim Grahl start by looking at the Story Grid Five Leaf Genre Clover before diving into the quadrants and controlling idea.
Mar 30, 2023
39 min
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