Mozilla Foundation executive director Mark Surman talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about why the internet needs a "public option," how Mozilla's browser Firefox is positioning itself for the future, and the future of tech regulation. Surman also discusses how punk rock and small-town censorship shaped his worldview, and why being the number one browser isn't actually Firefox's main goal.Featuring:Mark Surman (<a href="https://twitter.com/msurman">@msurman</a>), executive director, Mozilla FoundationHost:Kara Swisher (<a href="https://twitter.com/karaswisher">@karaswisher</a>), Recode co-founder and editor-at-largeMore to explore:<a href="http://bit.ly/ResetPod">Subscribe for free to Reset</a>, Recode's new podcast that explores why — and how — tech is changing everything.About Recode by Vox:Recode by Vox helps you understand how tech is changing the world — and changing us.Follow Us:Newsletter: <a href="https://events.recode.net/newsletters/subscribe/">Recode Daily</a>Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/Recode">@Recode</a> and <a href="https://twitter.com/Voxdotcom">@voxdotcom</a> Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Recode Decode: Carol Leonnig and Phil Rucker

Decoder is a show from The Verge about big ideas — and other problems. Verge editor-in-chief Nilay Patel talks to a diverse cast of innovators and policymakers at the frontiers of business and technology to reveal how they’re navigating an ever-changing landscape, what keeps them up at night, and what it all means for our shared future.