<p>The war begins between the brands as Owen tries to sing the praises of SmackDown and justify their attack while John just overlooks it as the B-show to Raw&#8217;s not-very-good-but-still-superior flagship. Plus a recap of the craziness that was TLC!</p>



<p>Patreon-exclusive show notes:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.patreon.com/posts/15060021">https://www.patreon.com/posts/15060021</a></p>



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11/01/17: Trapped in the Upside Down

Heel Turn is a wrestling podcast by jerks who watch wrestling. Each week Owen Douglass and John Gawarecki-Maxwell cover the latest happenings in WWE and NXT. The show is broadcast live every Monday at 11PM ET on http://www.twitch.com/prowrestling.