This week, we're bringing you a conversation that Tristan had with Krista Tippett, the Peabody Award-winning host of the On Being podcast. In it, they explore critical questions: what does it mean to build AI in service of life? How can we hold a collective problem this big as individuals? And what does it take to resist the spell of inevitability?

Enough Debate about the AI Jobpocalypse. We Need To Plan for the Messy Middle.

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