With the Godbold clan down with the flu, Hans had to handle this episode by himself. What else was he supposed to talk about than Star Wars?  Lots, actually. News came out amongst Chicagoland churches about their continued issues in transitioning (in the case of Willow) and another (James MacDonald) trying a new church strategy to avoid drama (2:10). That topic plus a book (21:18) plus carpool karaoke (25:50) means—that’s right—another episode for you.

With the Godbold clan down with the flu, Hans had to handle this episode by himself. What else was he supposed to talk about than Star Wars?  Lots, actually. News came out amongst Chicagoland churches about their continued issues in transitioning (in the case of Willow) and another (James MacDonald) trying a new church strategy to avoid drama

Episode 036: Delivering for Dollars, Preaching Advice, and a Band of Brothers

Two moderately-informed pastors try and make sense of church, media, and culture.