In this episode, I talk with Alli Lapps AKA @political.ali on TikTok about, well, a lot, we start with the prompt of the TikTok ban, and then promptly don't talk about it, (we do eventually, I promise) bouncing between COVID-19, generational divides, need for change in education, TikTok, copyright law and modern media, even (briefly) abortion and gun control, because everything is connected and no issue is isolated.(originally recorded August 4th, 2020)