Actor, writer, and comedian Karinda Dobbins chats with XO (Xorje Olivares) about her debut album 'Black & Blue,' which she recorded in the Bay Area more than a decade after starting her career there. They also talk about the importance of her occupying space in the comedy world as a queer woman of color and recognizing what material is deserving of her time now after a Trump presidency.

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