This week, Michael and Megan grapple with the problem of pain. It’s a complex issue for Christians - some seek out pain as a spiritual discipline, while for others, pain can drive them away from faith altogether. Professor Philip Siddall joins the show to help us further understand why pain occurs - and how to deal with it, both physically and spiritually. Finally, our hosts cast a critical eye over the second season of the hit TV series Severance. Out now, wherever you get your podcasts.

- - Intro

- - For Arguments Sake

- - Be Our Guest