Guests – Betsy Brantner Smith, Retired Gen. Stephen Mundt

**Kathleen Winn** – November 20, 2025

Tucson awoke to rare, steady rain, and the mood on *Winn Tucson* matched the weather: urgent, unfiltered, and unapologetic. Host Kathleen Winn, alongside two powerhouse guests — National Police Association spokesperson **Betsy Brantner Smith** and retired U.S. Army Brigadier General **Stephen Mundt** — delivered a two-hour masterclass on the issues dominating southern Arizona and the nation: violent crime spilling into homes, open-border fallout, holiday safety, and the dangerous rhetoric now aimed at America’s military.