Well they were. And Sensei Lydia joins us one more time to talk (and laugh) about such fun subjects as the "Smash the Masher" campaign before 1910. We digress (as usual) but finish strong with a surprising fact about Chojun Miyagi (or is it surprising?) Oh, and there's a surprise interview with the author of the book Her Own Hero. You don't want to miss that. Listen and keep in touch.