Joel and Naomi touch base for a third year in a row to pull our hair out, gloat about podcast successes around the world, talk about future plans, and catch up with Giselle, Rj, and Tazmin. If your favorite scene in Wizard of OZ was the one where they see the man behind the curtain, this is the episode for you. All credit to Judy Collins for use of the "Send in the Clowns" backup music. DTG despises genocide and continue to support people fighting all forms of it. We're still making ...