Why was Ghislaine Maxwell moved to a minimum security prison camp? Did Jeffrey Epstein really kill himself, willingly? Will trump pardon Maxwell? Where exactly are the Epstein files and what happened to the list on Pam Bondi's desk? Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain as trump tries every trick in the book to deflect, distract, and DARVO from the very thing most people want to know. Join Dr. Jodi and licensed therapist Bri and we explore the toxic nonsense of trump and the elusive Epstein list.

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