Today’s conversation is with Karen Patchell De Ladera. Karen talks me through the effect her miscarriages and fertility struggles have had on her and her husband Martin. We discuss how at times our medical care seemed clinical & cold & how women are still not provided with all of the information they may need during these times. Karen describes the joy her baby girl Alma brings to her family & how sometimes all you need is the kindness of strangers. This episode was recorded remotely over zoom in the middle of September 2020. If you would like to get in touch after the podcast please email [email protected]. Thanks for listening ❤️