In this episode, Mal interviews fellow Chicago-based practitioner, Isabelle Rizo. Isabelle is a consulting hypnotist, life coach, and tarot reader that combines her Transylvanian lineage into deep inner work to help clients unearth the truth of themselves, their abilities, and gifts within society. Isabelle helps Mal get over her fear of hypnosis, by describing it as “meditation with a goal.” They also discussed the importance of being trauma-informed as a healing artist. They also chatted about these topics: 🔮Vicarious trauma for Tarot Readers 🔮How to navigate trauma in a reading  🔮The difference between an intuitive reader & a licensed therapist, etc. 🔮Bridging the gap between intuitive reader & clinician 🔮Bridging the gap between “entertainer” and “intuitive” 💥HOW TO WORK WITH ISABELLE (Hypnosis, Tarot, Coaching):Isabellerizo.comIG: @isabellerizobvp💥MY ETSY SHOP FOR TAROT and ASTROLOGY READINGS (how to work with me!!): https://etsy.me/344O852 💥My info: Twitter: @malhasty Instagram: @whoroscopewitch Business email: [email protected] Website/Blog: https://whoroscopewitch.com/blog/ Logo by Libby: http://libbyalexander.com/IG: @libbylog