Jolene is joined by Alice for a conversation about the work of Paul B. Preciado, the last of the weird French guys (except he's actually Spanish). Tune in for a conversation about when you don't mean to transition but then do it anyways, what if everything were a dildo, barebacking and pozzing, and more!

Here's the Hocquenghem piece Jolene translated that we reference some: https://homintern.soy/posts/prefacehocquenghem.html

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