In this episode, Tom and Josh interview a Multi Award Winning English Language(EL) teacher from Lowell, Massachusetts and Author of "Making Americans: Stories of Historic Struggles, New Ideas, and Inspiration in Immigrant Education".

Jessica Landers is on a mission to reimagine what  English Language education means in today's world. The conversation covers stories of immigrant students from long ago up to today.

Learn more about Jessica's work at her website https://www.jessicalander.com/