<p>I&apos;m joined by one of my best friends as we reflect that everything passes. So much of what Nela knows for sure is drawn from the fact she fled the war in Bosnia aged 15 - a wonderful conversation full of wisdom.</p>

#22 The Optimist Creed with Eddi Reader

I have been asking guests on my radio show 'What Do You Know For Sure?' for almost 3 years. After listening to brief replies more than 130 times I decided it was such an interesting enquiry that I had to make more of it - and so this podcast was born!  In this series I ask women of all ages & from all places to tell me what they know for sure on a quest to find if our answers follow the same kind of streams or if there are indeed as many deep knowings as there are women in the world.   www.annehughesignite.co.uk