We chat with Gabriel Kennedy, author of Chapel Perilous: The Life and Thought Crimes of Robert Anton Wilson, about Wilson and Timothy Leary’s 1970s and 80s hope-fueled tech utopianism and what's left of it in the age of Musk and Thiel’s tech-fash dystopia.Find Gabriel online and buy his book:chapelperilous.usMusic:Airglow - Spliff and Wesson (CC-BY)Subscribe on Patreon to support making this show, get extra episodes, and listen to our entire back catalog.patreon.com/wetwired