Ever wonder how you can work in a way that protects your career as an artist? Carrie Cleveland from CERF+ shares her secret! CERF+. Carrie has worked for CERF+ for 11 years and shares with us her remarkable career helping artists everywhere. CERF+ offers a wealth of resources for all makers. We talk about the time Wellness for Makers and CERF+ joined forces and we listen as Carrie shares some insightful stories to reflect on and consider the importance of an organization such as CERF+.