Rebecca and Liz explore health care sharing ministries (HCSMs) with guest, Sarah Levin. Sarah guides us through this religious billion dollar industry. We discuss what HCSMs are and what they are not, and why we need to push for them to have transparency. Background and Resources <ul> <li dir="ltr" aria-level="1"> <a href= "https://www.secularstrategies.com/meet-the-team/">Bio for Sarah Levin </a> </li> <ul> <li dir="ltr" aria-level="2"> Sarah's email: sarah@secularstrategies.com </li> </ul> <li dir="ltr" aria-level="1"> <a href= "https://www.secularstrategies.com/">Secular Strategies</a> </li> <li dir="ltr" aria-level="1"> <a href= "https://secular.org/">Secular Coalition for America</a> </li> <li dir="ltr" aria-level="1"> <a href= "https://www.cfequality.org/resources/hcsm">Center for Freethought Equality, HCSMs toolkit</a> </li> <li dir="ltr" aria-level="1"> <a href= "https://www.secularofficials.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/11/SS-HCSM-Slides-.pdf"> Secular Strategies HCMS Slides</a> </li> <li dir="ltr" aria-level="1"> <a href= "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFetFqrVBNc">Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO) - "Health Care Sharing Ministries"</a> </li> <li dir="ltr" aria-level="1"> <a href= "https://www.theactuarymagazine.org/health-care-sharing-ministries/"> The Actuary Magazine - "Health Care Sharing Ministries"</a> </li> <li dir="ltr" aria-level="1"> <a href= "https://www.splcenter.org/resources/hatewatch/adf-supports-controversial-health-care-sharing-industry/"> Southern Poverty Law Center - "ADF supports donor, trade group for controversial health care sharing industry"</a> </li> <li dir="ltr" aria-level="1"> <a href= "https://samaritanministries.org/uploads/documents/Samaritan-Ministries-Guidelines-2025-Aug.pdf"> Samaritan Ministries - "Guidelines for Health Care Sharing"</a> </li> </ul>   Check us out on <a href= "https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQo6HBZgkqp247TWIvFqeqw">YouTube</a>, <a href="https://www.instagram.com/wedissentpod/">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.facebook.com/wedissentpodcast/">Facebook</a>, <a href= "https://bsky.app/profile/wedissentpod.bsky.social">Bluesky</a>, and <a href="https://twitter.com/we_dissent">X</a>. Our website, <a href= "https://we-dissent.org/">we-dissent.org</a>, has more information as well as episode transcripts.

100 years of monkey business: the Scopes trial centennial

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