On this episode we talk with Thomas Bermudez a serial entruperu and the owner of Orlando SMP.

 We dive into the SMP business as well as our candid discussion about money, how leverage it and what the benefits are in viewing it as a tool. 

We also talk about balance in family, and with money, and the importance of losing the ego in order to move forward in your creative journey,

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