Washington Post contributing columnist Ramesh Ponnuru speaks with former vice president Mike Pence in the first of Washington Post Live’s Election 2024 Candidates series about his vision for the country, his strategy to break through the GOP field and his views on his former boss, Donald Trump.

Conversation recorded on Tuesday, October 3, 2023.

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