Dan Ellsberg relates a conversation with Henry Kissenger in which he — Ellsberg — describes what happens to people as they become privy to closely held and sensitive government information. The year was 1969 and Kissinger had made his first presentation to the National Security Council. Glenn Greenwald brings it forward in time and reflects on WikiLeaks. Recorded in 2011 with Jay Ackroyd. Dan Ellsberg relates a conversation with Henry Kissenger in which he — Ellsberg — describes what happens to people as they become privy to closely held and sensitive government information. The year was 1969 and Kissinger had made his first presentation to the National Security Council. Glenn Greenwald brings it forward in time and reflects on WikiLeaks. Recorded in 2011 with Jay Ackroyd.