Way out West there is this fella by the name of Jeff Patton. At least, that was the handle his lovin’ parents gave him. But we just call him the User Story Mapping Dude. Now, this dude was no stranger to product development. Some might even say, when it comes to story mapping, well, he wrote the book. 

And as it was, two big fans of his were doing a podcast series on that said book, and decided to take a roadtrip to interview him in person. Those two fans were fellas from Montana by the names of Jason Moore and Ephie Risho. When they finally did record that podcast, it was magic to behold, full of insights and new stories neither of them had ever heard before. And that’s the story we bring to you in this here podcast.

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