Roman is disappointed with Dark Mode. Larry talks about the Phoenix Project. -----The Big Batch / Small Batch diagram by John Cutler: https://twitter.com/johncutlefish/status/1002193108765831168-----The Phoenix Project by Kevin Behr, George Spafford, and Gene Kim: https://itrevolution.com/book/the-phoenix-project/--- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/uxlikeus/message