Welcome to the ironed maiden voyage episode of "Until I Have A Girlfriend" with who I pretend is my girlfriend when we go to gay bars, Katie Trainer!  Katie is a multi-media genius and mural goddess who has had her artwork all over the places(I should've done a lot more research on where her murals are) but anyway, listen as we figure out the name of the series, talk other podcasts and cats!  @katietrainer.art