Christophe Zajac-Denek is an actor, a podcaster, a traveler—and he’s 4 feet 4 inches tall. On this week’s episode of Unpacked, he shares how being a person with dwarfism has never stopped him from exploring the world.Meet this week’s guests<ul>
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<a href="http://nicollegalteland.com/">Nicolle (Nikki) Galteland</a>, Unpacked producer</li>
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<a href="https://christophezd.com/">Christophe Zajac-Denek</a>, actor, surfer, and podcast host</li>
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<li>Read this episode’s <a href="https://www.afar.com/podcasts/unpacked/s2-e33-christophe-zajak-denek-travel-as-a-little-person">show notes</a>, including a full transcript of the episode.</li>
<li>Listen to Christophe’s podcast, <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/im-kind-of-a-big-deal/id1484411273">I’m Kind of a Big Deal</a>.</li>
<li>Watch Christophe's documentary, <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzDrR-j8HAo">Standing on Water</a>, about surfing and dwarfism, which was just awarded "best short" at the Jersey Surf Film Festival.</li>
<li>Listen to Nikki's podcast, <a href="https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.looterspodcast.com%2F&amp;data=05%7C01%7Caislyn%40afar.com%7Cc06ffc21053f48cbe26608dbba295dbd%7C8ce99c9fed1644d6b401f800f8735606%7C0%7C0%7C638308459077190528%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&amp;sdata=KH8uKqUKM3280r6Jbfb2Oz2WaFdc4H9Dlb6k3qs4nUA%3D&amp;reserved=0">Looters</a>, a sci-fi western role-playing podcast.</li>
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Where to Travel This Winter

Unpacked by Afar is your weekly guide to where to go, how to travel, and everything worth unpacking in between. Each week, host Aislyn Greene and the Afar team travel the world and dig into the big questions behind every great trip, from the best new hotels and national parks to traveling more responsibly. Some weeks we follow a story through music, food, and culture. Others we tackle a tricky topic, share our favorite destinations, or help you plan where to go next. Because the travel world is complicated. We're here to help you unpack it.