A fascinating conversation with Clifton Duncan, who gives his thoughts on what's happened to New York City during COVID, the politics of masks and the personal consequences of speaking out against the prevailing narrative.

You can find Clifton on Twitter, YouTube and through his Podcast.

The podcast is now available through Apple Podcasts and Spotify as well.

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