We continue our conversation, Part 2 with Wilma Hollis for Spicy Christian Women - Becoming All that and a Bag of Chips. It starts early in life, the things we are drawn to. “Growing up, who did you look up to?”“I looked up to people who told the truth. I looked up to, the pastor that I had growing up. I looked up to a journalist.I looked up to people who defended you know someone who would say, that was wrong, you shouldn't have done that. We don't have enough of that now.”What do women need right now?“Our role as the primary nurturers doesn't change just because the times change. If anything, there's a… there's more of a demand on our need to nurture. There's more of a demand to make the kids feel safe, to help, you know, people in your world feel like everything's gonna be okay. And so, in these times, it's so important that we nurture others, that's still… that's still necessary, but also make sure that we nurture ourselves.”Yes, that.