In this episode we address Prof Simone’s notion of the “hallucination of Whiteness”, revisit Dr Lioba Hirsh’s response on the coloniality and antiblack entanglements of Western global health, and are joined by Prof Ola Uduku who helps us consider these recordings in relation to her own research as Professor of Architecture at the Manchester School of Architecture.Dr Lioba Hirsch is a Research Fellow at the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine.Prof Ola Uduku is Professor of Architecture at the Manchester School of Architecture.For more information and to access the transcript: https://www.ucl.ac.uk/urban-lab/transcript-black-urbanisms-meet-black-city