The Two Vague Podcast
The Two Vague Podcast
Ben Cheknis
Episode 148 - Variety
51 minutes Posted Apr 24, 2026 at 8:27 pm.
THE Norah is IN, preliminary thoughts on the demo, and Ben wants a larger font00:02:53 - A wrinkled card game, story and game mechanics, and comparing it to other games00:06:02 - Norah betting badly, happy to take all her money, and how Ben does introductions00:09:51 - Too early to do stars, real voice actors, an explanation of next segment, and thanks
Jukub introduces himself, a tradition of puns, going to PAX, and a demo experience00:15:02 - Black Jacket development timeline, oozing in a good way, and differences in demos00:19:02 - Not spoiling the boss count, Mi’Pu’Mi’s focus, and the three pillars of the business00:22:26 - A little James bondage, Barbara Broccoli, Jakub’s choice, and learning from variety00:26:56 - Fully independent, Ben’s new management buzz phrase, and ignorant Americans00:29:58 - A technical hiccup, radio face, the definition according to Ox Ford, and consistency00:33:50 - Gameplay variety, games with too much stuff, maintaining balance, and Warframe00:39:24 - Live-service games, barriers to entry, smorgasbords, and a Star Wars Christmas 00:43:18 - Variety shows in the EU, in Polish, attitudes on diversity, and similar worldly norms00:47:34 - Traveling to and from Vienna, driving stereotypes, and riding two-wheeled vehicles00:49:45 - Losing Jakub, Ben’s final thoughts, he’s back, and we covered a variety of topics
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We have double the guests for you this week for a show so special that it inspired a new and spicy 2VP T-shirt design—available on Andrew’s TeePublic storefront! In the first segment, Ben sits down with a visiting “aunt of the pod,” Norah, to discuss her first impressions from playing the demo of Black Jacket on the Steam Deck. The second segment features Jakub, the associate producer of this wonderful offering from Mi’Pu’Mi Games. The hosts have a discussion about the development of the game, Jakub’s role at Mi’Pu’Mi’ Games, the importance of variety as it relates to game development, and an assortment of other ramblings. 
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Black Jacket Demo First Impressions With Norah
The Announcement Trailer for Black Jackethttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zC4Mtfz0YN8
A Conversation With Jakub from Mi’Pu’Mi’ Games
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