Two Friends Talking About Things
Two Friends Talking About Things
Nate Green and Jason Lengstorf
Lindsay Got Fired — Now What?
58 minutes Posted Mar 29, 2016 at 8:06 am.
— “There’s a part of me that wants to believe that all of us really know what we want to be when we grow up.” – Lindsay
— “I have now muted Jason.” – Nate
— “How can you get as good as possible at a very specific skill?” – Nate
— “I found the unmute button.” – Jason
— “The only way you could ever know exactly what you want would be to stop evolving.” Jason
— “With careers it always seems so dire. … Our interests don’t align with our careers.” – Lindsay
— “The people who seem to be happiest … is it because of an overlap of those skills and interests?” – Jason
— “What do you feel like you are very, very good at?” – Nate
— “It feels like I’m gloating, and I feel like I’m going to say something and then suck at it.” – Lindsay
— “You know when you see those forwards that go around on Facebook that are like, ‘Pick the 5 people who would be on your team during the zombie apocalypse’?” – Jason
— “Anything that I do — and I don’t know if this is a skill — I’m damn well going to try to make it good.” – Lindsay
— “When the rug got pulled out from the pipe dream of being a rock star, I woke up to realize, ‘Holy shit, I accidentally built a practical skill set.’” – Jason
— “As long as it’s in service of a skill that seems really interesting to you … that’s a really, really good place to start.” – Nate
— “Does this skill serve me? And in what ways does it serve me?” – Lindsay
— “Someone can take a job away from you. But no one can take a skill away from you.” – Nate
— “I remember researching, ‘What to do if you hate your job and you can’t leave it.’” – Lindsay
— “It removes that mental burden of feeling like you’re wasting time.” – Jason
— “Ostensibly — ob-stensibly? That’s a horrible word to say out loud.” – Nate
— “They’d feel like they were doing work that matters. … That’s just my hunch.” – Nate
— “What concerns me? … Not knowing what the fuck I’m doing. … Feeling like an impostor.” – Lindsay
— “I know I keep bringing up the cat.” – Nate
— “I definitely like the quiet, and the peace — the stillness of the day.” – Lindsay
— “Where I started to get it corrected was when I built new routines that I could carry with me.” – Jason
— “We have a little bit of downtime, and we start rekindling some of these passions … and then we get back into the routine of working and those things just fall away again.” – Nate
— Jason references this article on staying consistent using rituals: bit.ly/1SsZeGv
— “How can you create a similar type of ritual that will allow you to do that stuff, and would you be willing to let us follow along?” – Jason
— “Do you feel that you have a certain couple of skills that you’re going to try to use in this role … something that is really interesting to you that you’re looking to get better at?” – Nate
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Show notes
Lindsay always thought she’d eventually know what she wanted to be when she grew up.
But after changing majors, grad school, getting married, and working in a job for three and a half years, she’s still not quite sure what “grown up” means, or what she wants to be — and the fact that she just got laid off is making that question a little more pressing.
In this conversation, Nate Green and Jason Lengstorf talk with Lindsay about building skills instead of putting in time at a job, creating routines to keep us on track, and whether or not knowing what we want to be when we grow up is actually a good thing. At the end, the three of them devise an experiment for Lindsay to try that will help her keep the good stuff going, even when she starts a new job.
NOTE: The audio on this call is a little janky, with some background noise and lag, since everyone was calling in from different corners of the world. If you can forgive the quality of the recording, we hope the quality of the content makes up for it.