And, surgeons don't do their own surgeries. Naturally, it shouldn't be a surprise that therapists also usually have a therapist. So why does that seem like mind-blowing information to many people? Tune in to join Nicole Arzt, licensed marriage and family therapist, and me while we talk about the progression of normalizing therapy, how boring a problem-free life would be and much more.

Please note that due to the COVID-19 global pandemic, this episode was recorded remotely. Audio quality may differ between speakers.

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