Three gals in entertainment aren't the least bit shocked by the news of Ellen DeGeneres treating her staff like they're descendants of the Wuhan bat -- here's why. This week Taylor gets into it with fellow pop culture journalist Sade Spence (whose friend worked at the show) and actress Chelar Vale. The ladies break the fourth wall about what REALLY goes down on TV and movie sets, as they get into a much larger, taboo issue: Why working for a woman (as a woman) is still more hellish than the year 2020.