Energetic, spirited, to the point, charismatic and full of enlightened argument...par for the course one might expect.Constructive criticism, dealing with people, managing and keeping our self-discipline are just some of the topics we talk about in the build up to discussing gender equality and how to go about addressing the imbalance. I always learn so much from speaking with people I consider natural leaders of thought and action and Ani and Tatiana definitely represent two such people. I thank you both for taking the time to talk to me...again!